Saturday, July 6, 2019

Aurorae: Boreraig, Isle of Skye, Scotland, this cairn to the MacCrimmon pipers, hereditary bagpipers to the Clan MacLeod, but I don't recall (from the 1970s) this particular event of John MacFadyen piping, Musings about the latent, very latent, Scottish IDENTITY I think I learned, and with regards to this web pages' pictures - http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/clan-history * * * A kind of a latent MacLEOD identification seemed to happen in our family from when I was 10 or 11 or so at least, I think Dad, with his very Scottish name, Gordon Kenneth MacLeod MD (my name too - Gordon Kenneth MacLeod III, where my nickname is Scott ... and that Dad ... until he became a medical doctor), MacLeod family history emails with my cousin Mark MacLeod, Genealogy and DNA - "I hope that with enough MacLeod DNA we might be able to reduce the uncertainty on where James Edward McLeod was born" - before he arrived on Prince Edward Island in the 1850s, (Ancestry.com related pages/links here - http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm) * * * Having recorded all of the bagpiping tunes in the College of Piping's Green Tutor Vol. 1 on the Scottish Small Pipes on an A chanter, and appreciating how this goal of recording so that others learning the SSP in A could learn with a Tutor (by playing with eventually), I think I'm now going to try to record as many tunes from the CoP Green Tutor Vol. 1 as possible that work on the Scottish Small Pipes on a D chanter - and soon on B flat chanter, which is coming in the mail, Just began a Scott Gordon Kenneth MacLeod family tree in WikiTree - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacLeod-2524 ~



Hi Ma, 

Just found this salient information about MacLeod history - http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/clan-history - from the Scottish / British Clan MacLeod out of 10 MacLeod societies worldwide. I remember receiving MacLeod publications as early as Hamden, CT / Bethesda, MD / Pittsburgh, PA with some of this information. And this boils the history down to a lot of salient points I've heard over the decades. A kind of a latent MacLeod identification seemed to happen in our family from when I was 10 or 11 or so at least ... interesting to think about. 

Emailing from my YogaMacFlower@gmail.com email address (partly for size of image files I'm saving here potentially). 

L, Scott




With regards to the narratives in this - "Clan MacLeod Society of Scotland - 'History of the Clan MacLeod: Early History' " page - http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/clan-history - I was familiar with some of this in the 1970s ... 


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History of the Clan MacLeod

Early History

The progenitor of the Clan was Leod, who gained possession of much of Skye, including the Cuillins, Harris and Lewis in the mid 13th century. Later tradition claimed that he was descended from the Norse Kings of Man. Dunvegan was acquired by marriage to the MacRailt heiress and became the principle seat of the Clan where the Castle was built and developed. The Clan takes its name from Leod, whose sons were called MacLeod, mac being Gaelic for son.
Leod had two sons, or grandsons, Tormod, English Norman, andTorcall, English Torquil, who became progenitors of the MacLeods of Harris and Dunvegan and the MacLeods of the Lewes.
In the 14th century the MacLeods of Harris acquired Glenelg on the mainland at the strategic crossing point to Skye. Malcolm MacLeod, 3rdChief of Harris, built the keep at Dunvegan.
The MacLeods of the Lewes acquired Gairloch and Assynt on the mainland and the Isle of Raasay.
Both MacLeod Clans supported the MacDonald Lord of the Isles, semi independent kings on the west coast. In Skye land was lost to the MacDonalds. After the forfeiture of the Lordship of the Isle, in 1493, the MacLeods and MacDonalds began feuding. At this difficult time Alexander MacLeod, 8thChief of Harris, known as Alasdair Crotach, kept the clan lands together and built himself a fine tomb in St Clement's Church, Rodel, Harris.
Alasdair Crotach MacLeod built the Fairy Tower and the Fairy Flag is still the most celebrated relic at the Castle. The flag was given to a MacLeod chief by the fairies and had the power to summon up a magic host in time of need. It was twice used in defeating the MacDonalds.
The MacCrimmons, hereditary pipers at Dunvegan, became pre-eminent pipers and people were sent from all over Scotland to be perfected as pipers. The MacCrimmons had a piping college at Boreraig, where a cairn now commemorates the family.
The Keep was built inside the curtain wall at Dunvegan Castle, around 1340.
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John MacFadyen piping at the MacCrimmon Cairn, Boreraig in 1974. Seton Gordon is on the left.
The tomb made for Alasdair Crotach MacLeod at St Clement's Church, Rodel, Harris, as it might have appeared.
The Fairy Flag is still preserved at Dunvegan. Alasdair Crotach MacLeod added the Fairy Tower to the Castle.
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Hi Ma,

Some further musings about the latent, very latent, Scottish identity I think I learned (curiously somehow) in our family growing up - and with regards to this web pages' pictures - http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/clan-history - which are all symbols of this MacLeod identity, as I see it, - yet I was only familiar with some of these. Interesting to see the above page on a smartphone per this email (as a record too) - because they're quite visible (whereas the web page in gmail is very spread out and the pictures aren't so easily seen) - with regards to the Internet too re identity. I'd like to ask you further about how such identity emerged in our family history - from Grandpa (Alexander Chadbourne Brown aka Sandy), Granny (Rachel Gilbert Brown) and Dad (Gordon Kenneth MacLeod MD) and yourself (Janet Kirkbride Brown - with your quite Scottish name too), at some point.

With regards to this 1st picture of Dunvegan Castle "The Keep was built inside the curtain wall at Dunvegan Castle, around 1340" -

- http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/fields/image/dunvegan_castle_1841.gif?itok=M8AFkqOD - I've been aware of this since the early 1970s or so.

With regards to this second picture of the MacCrimmon Cairn, Boreraig "John MacFadyen piping at the MacCrimmon Cairn, Boreraig in 1974. Seton Gordon is on the left" -

- http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/fields/image/macfadyen_piping_cairn_600.jpg?itok=i0zAI2l3 - I recall being aware of Boreraig, this cairn to the MacCrimmon pipers, hereditary bagpipers to the Clan MacLeod (from the 1970s), but I don't recall this particular event of John MacFadyen piping - and in this photo with Seton Gordon (to the left) in a very Scottish POSTURE leaning on his shepherd's crook / staff, back to the wind probably, and LISTENING to bagpiping (all very symbolic). FASCINATING too that I went to a College of Piping summer camp with the great piper JOHN MacFADYEN (whose first book of bagpipe sheet music, I still play tunes from - this past week, for example), thanks in part to PM Sandy Jones, in North Carolina preceding the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games in the 1970s.

With regards to this third picture of the "The tomb made for Alasdair Crotach MacLeod at St Clement's Church, Rodel, Harris, as it might have appeared" -

- http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/crotach_tomb_cl_600.jpg?itok=QGwSEsJZ - this is completely new for me. I didn't know this narrative from the 1970s as a teen, and would like to learn more. (Would like too to develop all these pictures into a realistic virtual earth for history - think Google Street View with TIME SLIDER, and here's the isle of Harris itself in Street View with photos too - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris/@57.8896184,-7.4593356,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x488d994a185ff281:0x955e10628e919da9!8m2!3d57.9932604!4d-6.8736215 - AND Alasdair Crotach MacLeod's tomb in Street View - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris/@57.7409139,-6.9631456,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNkb4gf2-AJQR2ZzxrOwo_d9CbNfh15yX4xkFpk!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNkb4gf2-AJQR2ZzxrOwo_d9CbNfh15yX4xkFpk%3Dw203-h130-k-no!7i3450!8i2217!4m5!3m4!1s0x488d994a185ff281:0x955e10628e919da9!8m2!3d57.9932604!4d-6.8736215). What's also FASCINATING name-wise (Lacanian-wise even too) is that I currently play in Open Band (in Berkeley, California) in a church of the same name - St. Clement's (Episcopal Church) - on Monday evenings for Scottish Country Dancing. ...


Open Band will play again on Mondays in September in the beautiful hall at St. Clement's Episcopal Church (2837 Claremont Blvd, Berkeley) near Claremont Hotel & Spa. Scottish Country Dancers & Musicians Welcome. See too https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Scottish_Country_Dancing … for @WorldUnivAndSch music+ subjects




- https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1143625333037342720 ...


With regards to this fourth picture of the Fairy Flag, and the Dunvegan tower - "The Fairy Flag is still preserved at Dunvegan. Alasdair Crotach MacLeod added the Fairy Tower to the Castle" -

- http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/fairy_tower_flag_600.gif?itok=fr_WD6c0 - I recall hearing of and reading about the Fairy Flag in the 1970s in my teens, but I never really resonated with the fairy or magic stories associated with it, or with the rallying around a flag aspect of it either symbolically.  "The Fairy Flag is known for the numerous traditions of fairies, and magical properties associated with it" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_Flag).

FASCINATING too as I think through making my upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish Small Pipes' CD in 2020, that I studied with John MacFadyen as a teen, and somehow that I even play the bagpipes - identity-wise. (And that I studied at Fettes College too in 1976-1977 or 1977-1978, and have also studied at the University of Edinburgh in 2003-2004, identity-wise too).


With regards to the narratives in this - "Clan MacLeod Society of Scotland - 'History of the Clan MacLeod: Early History' " page - http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/clan-history - I was familiar with some of this in the 1970s, but interesting that I play a bagpipe tune (from the College of Piping's Green Tutor vol. 1, called "The High Road to Gairloch" and another tune with "Assynt House" in it) ... and that, according to this history, "The MacLeods of the Lewes acquired Gairloch and Assynt on the mainland and the Isle of Raasay," which I just learned, for ex.

And with regards to this paragraph "Both MacLeod Clans supported the MacDonald Lord of the Isles, semi independent kings on the west coast. In Skye land was lost to the MacDonalds. After the forfeiture of the Lordship of the Isle, in 1493, the MacLeods and MacDonalds began feuding. At this difficult time Alexander MacLeod, 8th Chief of Harris, known as Alasdair Crotach, kept the clan lands together and built himself a fine tomb in St Clement's Church, Rodel, Harris," it's interesting to me that Roddy MacLeod and Finlay MacDonald are the two current heads of the National PIping Centre, which just merged with the College of Piping (in 2018). I also didn't know the history of Alexander MacLeod, 8th Chief of Harris, later known as Alasdair Crotach. (Am appreciative of the fact that I'm emailing you from my Yoga Mac Flower email re all this 'feuding' language, and also that I'm a Quaker, a f/Friend, and a nontheist Friend too - and that you and I, Ma, are communicating about all of this via email over the Internet, with many nice Dunvegan Castle web sites on the web, but not much yet in a realistic virtual earth, realistic virtual Scotland, realistic virtual Skye, Harris and Lewis, for example).

Re the last paragraph, am appreciative, too, of this very long tradition of MacLeod piping, identity-wise too, re MacLeod history ...
"The MacCrimmons, hereditary pipers at Dunvegan, became pre-eminent pipers and people were sent from all over Scotland to be perfected as pipers. The MacCrimmons had a piping college at Boreraig, where a cairn now commemorates the family" - re the last paragraph in this description.

I think Dad, with his very Scottish name, Gordon Kenneth MacLeod MD (my name too - Gordon Kenneth MacLeod III, where my nickname is Scott, and that Dad was formerly GKM Jr. until he became a medical doctor) - learned much of this MacLeod history by reading and possibly from acquaintances, but possibly some from his parents and family, Gordon Kenneth MacLeod Sr. and Margaret Driscoll MacLeod  (but I don't really know).

But am curious in an ongoing way about what I'll call this latent, quite latent, IDENTITY (social theory-wise esp.) generation of "MacLeod" and "Scottish" and how it somehow took shape in our family.  And MacLeod name family history-wise, and re Scottish identity too, I'm glad I'm an American, and developing too World University and School, in that it will potentially help a lot of Scots and MacLeods in Scotland too. (There's even a not yet begun MacLeod Society Worldwide wiki subject at WUaS - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects).

Having recorded all of the bagpiping tunes in the College of Piping's Green Tutor Vol. 1 on the Scottish Small Pipes on an A chanter, and appreciating how this goal of recording so that others learning the SSP in A could learn with a Tutor (by playing with eventually), I think I'm now going to try to record as many tunes as possible that work on the Scottish Small Pipes on a D chanter - and soon on B flat chanter, which is coming in the mail.

What do you think about all of this family history re the MacLeod name, Ma? :)

Love, Scott

Pretty cool pictures here of Dunvegan Castle - https://www.dunvegancastle.com

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunvegan_Castle

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_Flag

https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/mysterious-fairy-flag-clan-macleod-and-its-legendary-protective-powers-020884

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/The-Fairy-Flag-of-the-MacLeods/

http://portal.historicenvironment.scot/designation/GDL00164


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Identity here:

"Social identity is one's sense of self as a member of a social group (or groups). Sociologists use the concept of social identity to explain how people understand who they are and why they do what they do. According to social identity theory, people classify themselves and others as belonging to specific groups" (https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/definitions/social-identity-49).




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Scott MacLeod
May 18, 2019, 5:39 PM
to Mark

Mark,

I'm writing to wish you a very happy birthday:

Guitar four-hands? Now, wait a minute ... cross-handed, too :) Lovely music, as well ... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaavt9 ... worth re-visiting :) Joyeux anniversaire!

With very best wishes, Scott


- https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1102669699110776832



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Mark MacLeod
May 19, 2019, 4:09 PM
to me

Thanks Scott! Great video, looks quite hard.

FYI, I've met up with your brother Sandy a couple of times recently. I'm building a house in Portland and have re-connected with Gerry Kennedy and Mary Lou, and they're good friends with Sandy. He seems well and we'll soon be neighbors.


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Scott MacLeod
May 19, 2019, 8:42 PM
to Mark

Thanks Mark too! The music-making in video looks fun too - quite synchronized brains-wise even, and lyrical ! Happy birthday ! :)

Sounds great too that all you 1st cousins will be neighbors soon in the Portland Maine area (and re many family roots). When might you move in? And would you move completely from Newfoundland, or live part time in Canada as you children go through university there?  Greetings to Gerry, Mary Lou and Sandy, when you see them next!

Warm regards, Scott



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Mark MacLeod
May 20, 2019, 1:28 AM
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Scott,

Our plans are to move to Portland near year end. As to Newfoundland, our middle child Kyle will likely stay here. He got a Master's degree in economics a couple of years ago and now works as an energy marketer. Our oldest Kenneth works as a lawyer in Manchester England and our youngest Claire is finishing her second year at University of St. Andrews in Scotland. That said, both Roberta and I have connections here in St John's (ongoing research projects for Roberta and Board positions for me) so we will be back and forth, and we might keep an apartment here.

I've been spending a fair bit of time on MacLeod genealogy. I've got a pretty good idea of our family connections here in Newfoundland and back to Ireland and I have a few distant cousins here in town. I've also found a MacLeod from James MacLeod's first marriage to Ann Bulger who settled in Portland, Maine (a George S. MacLeod). All fun stuff!

Hope all is well with you!



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Scott MacLeod
May 20, 2019, 8:40 AM
to Mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your email. Your family genealogy research sounds great and interesting. What main software are you using and have you found most helpful for organization and research? (Any of the one's below?) Thanks too for your kids' news. Interesting to learn of their career developments in a variety of English-speaking countries (and re my seeking to begin a family as well).


I had Family Tree Maker (and related) some years ago (in the 1990s) and had uploaded most of my ~400 items of data before hard drive failure:

Scott Gordon K. MacLeod III's Family Tree Genealogy website -

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/c/Gordon-K-Macleod-iii/index.html

(with many more related pages/links here  http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm)
Your move to Portland, ME, sounds great, as well as your plans for multiple domiciles. Congratulations on all your kids successful career developments as well. Any chance if I got Family Tree Make again for the Mac, that we could sync family trees (if this is possible? - per the review below).


Scott


best genealogy software for Mac in 2019 in order of ranking.
RootsMagic. RootsMagic has been in the family tree business for years and although started life on Windows, can now be used on Mac too. ...
Family Tree Maker. ...
MacFamilyTree. ...
Heredis. ...
GEDitCOM II. ...
iFamily For Mac. ...
Gramps. ...
Reunion for Mac.
- https://machow2.com/best-family-tree-software-mac/


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Mark MacLeod
May 20, 2019, 12:21 PM
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Scott,

I read an article by a guy who was both a genealogy expert and an IT expert. His forecast was that genealogy software would move away from apps running on your home device to apps running entirely on the internet. In fact, a friend named Bob Glynn (note same surname as our g-grandmother Mary!) had his father's work on a discontinued PC app called The Master Genealogist and it has been a pain to convert.

So, I use Ancestry.com and it seems to work fine. It may not be pro stuff but it does what I need it to do. It provides access to incredible volumes of data and has links to DNA analysis. If your app can export a GEDCOM file, Ancestry can read it. I can send anyone a link to my family tree or demo the tree on any device. The downside is Ancestry will be after you to join.


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Scott MacLeod
May 20, 2019, 3:24 PM
to Mark

Mark,

I think I've used Ancestry.com as well in the past. That with Broderbund genealogy software & Family Tree Maker all may have merged I think I recall. Thanks too for the heads' up.

How old was kiltmaker and tailor James Edward McLeod on PEI in 1850s when he had his last children? And do we know whether he came from Inverness or Edinburgh, which Gerrard at one time suggested?

Am curious what WIKI geneaology software version might emerge, and re Wikidata, which WUaS is also in in its 300 languages, and even whether a realistic virtual earth for geneaology with avatar bots might energe and for genetic engineering even (thinking Google Street View with Stanford medicine here).

Cheers, Scott
(Ancestry.com related pages/links here I think:  http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm)


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Mark MacLeod
May 22, 2019, 6:03 AM
to me

Scott,

 Assuming James Edward was born in 1824, he was 64 when his last child - Margaret Emilia McLeod, aka Amy MacLeod - was born in 1888 in Charlottetown. He fathered 17 children. Edward died in Boston in 1899 and Amy died in 1980. Edward's son and our great grandfather Ernest beat him on the age score. Ernest married his second wife Ruth White when he was 67 and their last child Helen was born when he was 81! Helen lives in Maine and is younger than me! Ernest fathered 14 children. 

 I'm not sure where Edward was born. I've heard both Inverness-shire and Edinburgh. I like Edinburgh better because he seemed to like cities (Charlottetown, Halifax, Boston). and there is less need for a tailor in the countryside. I also found a marriage license for one of his sons (George S.) from the first marriage to Ann Bulger that lists his father's birth location as 'Edinburg'. 

 I also think of advancing technology for genealogy. I expect a growing understanding of family histories as more data gets digitized, software improves, and more people build and share trees and get their DNA analyzed. BTW, have you had your DNA analyzed? If not, have it done by Ancestry and we can add it to the growing database on the MacLeods. It's quite simple to do. I hope that with enough MacLeod DNA we might be able to reduce the uncertainty on where James was born, among other benefits.



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Scott MacLeod
May 22, 2019, 9:39 AM
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Mark,

You're a wonderful trove of great family information and history. Thank you. I'd like to begin to look at the evidence with time as well.

With DNA tests now past the 'bleeding edge,' ie they're developed and are beginning to become somewhat sophisticated, I

Searched on
Does Family Tree Maker or Ancestry.com do better DNA tests?

Found: https://www.myfamilydnatest.com/best-dna-test-23andme-vs-ancestry-vs-ftdna/

Am learning what they have begun to home in on. Looks like Family Tree Maker has a smaller database, but is good in most other categories.

First probably to Family Tree Maker genealogy software, then in a few years to DNA tests, when they'll even be more developed. And maybe I'll have begun a family by then too. Am curious about the data-interoperability of genetic tests re these different software platforms too - re information-exchange, licensing, as well as related knowledge-generation. Something further to look into!

It's so interesting to read your James Edward McLeod history ... our great great grandfather from Scotland probably ... with time I'd like to examine the data too, including your great email. It's the
narratives that emerge from such sleuthing, and from the software that facilitates this, that I found particularly fascinating ... origin stories - which I'd now call identity narratives, newly vis-a-vis the Web - (and I write this as an anthropologist focusing on the physical-digital, the actual-virtual re emerging virtual worlds too!)

Appreciatively,
Scott


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Hi Mark, Gerrard and MacLeod family, 

Very appreciative of my 1st cousin's Mark MacLeod's recent emails re our family history (e.g. see the one here below) - and in my blog post from today - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html - with much about Macleod identity generation re family history (even social theory-wise, or sociologically), yet writing to my mother from personal experience from the 1970s forward, and re learning piping too. Where are all of you with Macleod DNA sampling and family history software? (There's even a not-yet-begun 'MacLeod Society Worldwide' wiki subject page at World Univ & Sch - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects).
(Seeking of a partner here to begin a family continues).

I hope this finds you all well, and having a great summer! (Am heading to Cuttyhunk from July 17-July 29, and will overlap with my mother and Peg from the 26th to the 29th).

Warmly, Scotty

- http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm (accessible from "Love & links" http://scottmacleod.com/links.htm on home page)




Mark MacLeod
May 22, 2019, 6:03 AM
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Scott,

Assuming James Edward was born in 1824, he was 64 when his last child - Margaret Emilia McLeod, aka Amy MacLeod - was born in 1888 in Charlottetown. He fathered 17 children. Edward died in Boston in 1899 and Amy died in 1980. Edward's son and our great grandfather Ernest beat him on the age score. Ernest married his second wife Ruth White when he was 67 and their last child Helen was born when he was 81! Helen lives in Maine and is younger than me! Ernest fathered 14 children.

I'm not sure where Edward was born. I've heard both Inverness-shire and Edinburgh. I like Edinburgh better because he seemed to like cities (Charlottetown, Halifax, Boston). and there is less need for a tailor in the countryside. I also found a marriage license for one of his sons (George S.) from the first marriage to Ann Bulger that lists his father's birth location as 'Edinburg'.

I also think of advancing technology for genealogy. I expect a growing understanding of family histories as more data gets digitized, software improves, and more people build and share trees and get their DNA analyzed. BTW, have you had your DNA analyzed? If not, have it done by Ancestry and we can add it to the growing database on the MacLeods. It's quite simple to do. I hope that with enough MacLeod DNA we might be able to reduce the uncertainty on where James was born, among other benefits.
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Mark, 

What are Anne and Claire's current email addresses (and anyone else of the Paul, Bruce or Mary MacLeod's who might have an occasional interest in emailing about our MacLeod family history)? And I'm including my mother's current email address in this re-send as well (re - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html).

MacLeod family cheers, Scott


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Mark, and MacLeods!

Re your great email about James Edward McLeod (now here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html), I found Anne, Claire', and Connie's current email addresses! :) (Please add anyone else of the siblings Paul, Bruce, Gordon or Mary (and of course not Francis) MacLeod's who might have an occasional interest in emailing about our MacLeod family history). And I'm re-including my mother's current email address in this re-send as well 

MacLeod family cheers, Scott

P.S. 
It's particularly this page that I'd like to update significantly over time - http://scottmacleod.com/ScottMacLeodFamilyHistory.htm - and connect with photos ... and eventually into a realistic virtual earth with interactive avatar bots of our ancestors with DNA where I'm thinking Google Street View with time slider with TensorFlow for machine learning & for Stanford Medicine tele-robotic surgery at the cellular and atomic levels, for ex. ... (and re
https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/a/c/Gordon-K-Macleod-iii/index.html - accessible from here - http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm) - and especially once I get some new genealogy software (leaning toward Family Tree Maker 2017 for Mac - https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/ - perhaps in its next version, potentially with a focus on DNA since it has such a wide group of users, and tops many lists).


Scotty


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Hi Scotty and all,

I am switching my email address to jenmurrayalice@gmail.com.  

Interesting research Mark!

Both Steve and I were thinking of getting a DNA test.  Steve’s bother, David, thoroughly researched both sides of the family and it was originally thought there were Viking relatives, but the DNA disproved that!  They are descendants from the Picts or original Brits.  David was also able to obtain many original documents, some of these he gave to us when in the UK for Steve’s father’s memorial last week, among the documents was a telegram from his grandparents and aunt congratulating his parents when baby Steve was born.  We also learned that darts was/is a serious game and inherited his grandfather’s original darts and monogrammed case. 

Hope you are all well,

Love,

Jen


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Hi Jen, Mark, and MacLeods,

Thanks too for your further fascinating DNA pointers re family research, Jen. That with enough MacLeod family DNA information - per Mark - we might be able to learn whether or not James Edward McLeod who settled on Prince Edward Island in the 1850s was from Inverness-shire in the north of Scotland (or Edinburgh), is also fascinating in these regards. (What genealogy softwares together would best aggregate this information over time - is an interesting question).

Not too long ago, I did a little etymological research into 'Leod' and found:

Leod in old Norse is Ljótr - https://www.geni.com/people/Leod-1st-Chief-of-Clan-MacLeod/6000000002188078500 & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leod > https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic (& in modern Norwegian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lj%C3%B3t%C3%B3lfr ?) Could Ljótr also mean light https://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/norwegian & shining, bright, in addition to ugly https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Li%C3%B3tr ? @sgkmacleod ~

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1135243283850915840
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1135243997830471680

Would like potentially to see pictures of Steve's families' telegram and darts - ie to share documents - and am wondering what the best software for extended families is for this too. This says:

'If your main reason for doing genealogy is to record and tell your family's story, then Family Historian is your best software option. Not only did it most accurately interpret data from GEDCOM files (which makes it easy to incorporate data collected by other family members) but its interface was also the easiest to use (https://www.toptenreviews.com/best-genealogy-software).

Am still leaning toward Family Tree Maker 2017 with GEDCOM files https://www.toptenreviews.com/genealogy-software-family-tree-maker-review (or an update) - and here are their DNA resources - https://www.familytreemaker.com/DNA/index.php?edition=us.

In talking with my mother, Janie MacLeod (Janet Kirkbride Brown MacLeod), last night about some Kirkbride family history (I haven't looked up the etymology of 'Kirk" in the OED yet, for ex., but I imagine it has some Scots' origins too :), I'd like to begin to add this data to software soon, so that when I'm next in Pittsburgh, I can also add documents, and citations from books, that my mother might have but I don't.

Mark uses Ancestry.com, and writes:
"So, I use Ancestry.com and it seems to work fine. It may not be pro stuff but it does what I need it to do. It provides access to incredible volumes of data and has links to DNA analysis. If your app can export a GEDCOM file, Ancestry can read it. I can send anyone a link to my family tree or demo the tree on any device. The downside is Ancestry will be after you to join" - which I also touch on here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html. Mark, what genealogy resources have you posted online if any?

And Gerrard and Minna, what genealogy software do you use? And have you posted anything online about this?

Will seek to add further of this to  https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html - as a reference.

Warm regards, Scotty
- http://scottmacleod.com/ScottMacLeodFamilyHistory.htm -
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Mark, and all,

Did you ever use Family Tree Maker WITH your use of Ancestry . com ?

Searched on "Family Tree Maker 2020 for Mac vs Ancestry . com" - and found that it could be good to use both computer programs ...

https://support.ancestry.com/s/question/0D51500001jn71jCAA/family-tree-maker-vs-ancestrycom
It's not really an either or. No matter whether you choose to search for records using Family Tree Maker's interface or the online tree, you need to have a paid Ancestry subscription if you want to attach records from Ancestry's databases. There's no additional monthly fee or anything for FTM, it's just the one time purchase of the software and then the ongoing Ancestry.com subscription if you want access to Ancestry's databases.The big reason to have FTM as well as the online tree is for the additional reporting, charting, etc options that come along with Family Tree Maker. The online tree has quite limited display functionality since it is intended primarily as a research tool. So if you want those increased capabilities, then you need offline software. FTM isn't the only one out there either, there are others as well. The advantage of FTM is that you can sync back & forth between it & your online tree which you would not be able to do with other software packages.

Also found:

According to the Ancestry website, their price for a US membership now is $19.99 a month, or, if you sign up for 6 months, $99.00. The more inclusive memberships are more, of course. I also paid $99 for a DNA test through Ancestry.Apr 16, 2019
What is the cost of Ancestry.com membership? Is it worth it? - Quora
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-cost-of-Ancestry-com-membership-Is-it-worth-it

I think the Family Tree Maker 2017 software package on your home computer costs about $79.95 (for a one time purchase). Might be good to dip in an out of Ancestry.com every 5 years if you're interested in its cloud and large DNA resources (but it's a for-profit company, so am not sure how much integration or aggregate analysis will be possible).

To get an idea of how both his video describes about how trees make and therefore how both Family Tree Maker 2017 and Ancestry . com work ...
Splitting or Combining Family Trees | Ancestry
https://youtu.be/KrdQXvtP0yE

Who owns what and issues re sharing genealogy and the Web? Found - https://blog.eogn.com/2015/03/20/who-owns-your-genealogy-data/ -- https://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2014/12/who-owns-what-in-the-genealogy-world/ (I don't necessarily want to pay both Family Tree Maker and Ancestry . com to upload my family history into their databases, which they can then use to re-sell, but would appreciate access to Ancestry . com's DNA resources aggregated too)

I may begin again too with the free WikiTree genealogy software - https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup (which 'Mission' I appreciate - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:About_WikiTree) - which I found here: "Looking for a New Family Tree Program? A Detailed Guide to the Top 6 Choices" - https://familyhistorydaily.com/genealogy-help-and-how-to/best-family-tree-software/ - and as someone who is very interested in wiki re wiki CC-4 MIT OCW-centric World University and School. Also WikiTree has some DNA integration (at this early stage). And as I mentioned to you, Mark, on March 20th, "I think I've used Ancestry . com as well in the past. That with Broderbund genealogy software, Family Tree Maker [and Genealogy . com] all may have merged I think I recall" in the mid-1990s, but then my computer crashed, but not before I had uploaded the approximately 400 names I had entered to probably Ancestry / Family Tree and hence some of my family information on Family Tree Maker and Genealogy sites from the 1990s I think is still here - http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm.

Mark and all, we're so early in DNA and genealogy research re MacLeod family history genetically that for me observing where the SINGLE collaborative family tree of WikiTree genealogy software heads in these regards may make sense (re the proprietary software above) - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Collaborative_Family_Tree. World University and School also seeks to code for all 7.5 billion people on the planet - and potentially with realistic avatar bots of individuals and organisms, for genetics too, as well as genealogy - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/You_at_World_University - so exploring this WikiTree genealogy software re MacLeod family history has merit for me as well in these regards.

Hope to add much of this here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html - for reference.

Warmly, Scotty
http://scottmacleod.com/family.htm


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Hi Mark, Jen and All,

I've begun a family tree in WikiTree - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacLeod-2524 - and doing so is as enjoyable as it was in the mid-1990s, before my commercial software crashed. I've added your name, Mark, in addition to your Dad's Bruce's name, and all Bruce's and Gordon's siblings. Check it out!

Genealogy cheers, Scott

CV: https://goo.gl/JZheSb
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Monday, July 8, 2019

Scott,

I'm limiting my reply to you as I don't want to fill up the inboxes of others who may not be as interested in genealogy as we both are. 

I think I'll stick to my Ancestry online tool since their record collection is quite extensive. Also, I've seen that they have by far the largest DNA database. And I've invested countless hours into building my current tree that now includes over 3000 people. Here's a link: https://ancstry.me/2LadJEy

An anecdote is also relevant: A friend of mine in St. John's inherited his father's extensive genealogical work on the Glynn family. His father was using a genealogical software package that only worked on PCs - The Master Genealogist. A while back, the makers of TMG discontinued support and left users high and dry. Of course, this could happen with Ancestry but with a huge user base I presume someone would pick it up. Using a PC, I was able to export the TMG Glynn family work to a GEDCOM file and import this to Ancestry so the work is not lost. 

Are your DNA results now in Ancestry? I don't see you on my list of matches. One intriguing development: an Ancestry user in Scotland shows up as a DNA match to me. This person has MacLeods in their family tree but unfortunately no James E McLeod. However, it may be that we can tie branches of their tree to our tree. 

I'm thinking that we should have a MacLeod family reunion and I'm close to sending out an 'official' invitation for Saturday Aug 1, 2020 at our place on Bonny Eagle Pond in Buxton. Does that work for you?

Mark


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Scott MacLeod
8:24 AM (0 minutes ago)
to Mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks once again for your great (and inspiring) MacLeod ancestry email. I just joined Ancestry with an initial free account, but haven't yet officially begun a free trial for 2 weeks (although I've entered my father and grandfather, Gordon, too), or ordered "Discover Ancestry DNA." Looks like you're in Canada in their database, so that might make you international - re their pricing schema & in terms of sharing data.  sgkmacleod is my user name (signed on with sgkmacleod@gmail.com - Scott GK MacLeod). Am still very very poor, so although I may do their DNA test soon for 99.00, and sign up for the 2 week free trial, I may hold off on anything else. I wonder if I'll be able to connect with you in Ancestry, since you're domiciled in Canada in this initial 2 week trial. Hmmm...

This appears to be my profile, Scott GK MacLeod:
https://www.ancestry.com/account/profile/07376f97-0006-0000-0000-000000000000

And this is yours, Mark K MacLeod:
https://www.ancestry.com/account/profile/06543b97-0006-0000-0000-000000000000

Am wondering if WIkiTree will interface with Ancestry eventually for charting etc ... https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacLeod-2524 ...


Yes, Ancestry's databases seem logical to engage, both tree-wise, as well as database wise re their probably largest, most-focused genealogy-wise (for the end user) datasets (re narratives too).

Reunion on August 1, 2020 at Bonny Eagle, Maine, sounds great, Mark!

Looking forward to further explorations together re Ancestry and genealogy.

warm regards, Scott
this is growing - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html :)


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Mark MacLeod
4:22 PM (1 hour ago)
to me

Great! Let me know if you have any questions

Sent from my iPhone



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Scott MacLeod
4:28 PM (1 hour ago)
to Mark

Very cool - so great to see photos of our grandparents' Margaret and Gordon (quite a few pictures which I had never seen before + many other new photos!) ... and very very cool to engage the software re a kind of time travel even ... (am reminded how important in the field of Anthropology the study of kinship has been in the past - for decades academically, albeit less so now - because these histories are origin stories - narratives of people's identity, including mine and yours - and have been significant for so so many peoples in the past 150 years, including anthropologists' families themselves! :) ... it's also a whole new approach to history itself in an amazing way, Mark - esp. with the DNA analysis. Thanks so much for the heads' up, Mark.

Scott
- https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/07/aurorae-boreraig-isle-of-skye-scotland.html -


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Tu, July 9, 2019

Mark MacLeod
5:32 AM (2 hours ago)
to me

I’ve updated the settings so you can see living people.

Sent from my iPad


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Thanks, Mark!

However, in the tree link you shared the other day, "Here's a link: https://ancstry.me/2LadJEy ," you and your brothers and sisters have now all disappeared completely - the living are disappeared - re sharing! Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

I have two versions of my father - Gordon Kenneth MacLeod and Gordon Kenneth MacLeod MD - going in Ancestry and would like to merge them. So my mother has 2 GKMs as spouse, and my brother is a half sibling! :) Thoughts? 

Am curious too if I could use my DNA sample I'm getting from Ancestry in WikiTree too. 


Cheers, Scott




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-https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1147683477292105729
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-https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1147684313044901888


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Glendale, Skye
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