Thursday, March 5, 2020

Japanese macaque: video backpacks #GoogleStreetView > create art object images > #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums @WorldUnivAndSch ~ * * * A realistic virtual earth for museums? - in a single realistic interactive virtual earth for everything? Am thinking Google Street View with time slider / Maps / Earth / TensorFlow with Second Life for avatar bots and group build-ability, but realistic - And what happens to Persistent Identifiers (PIDs) and scalability when we, (and archaeologists, for ex.) can bring Google Street View cars and even Google Street View video backpacks to art object image generation * * * Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' w/i five years enabling family historians to search for burial records & locations in an online database - Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' w/i five years enabling family historians to search for burial records & locations in an online database - #RealisticVirtualEarthForArchaeology #RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics ~ * * "Google "Trekkers" use backpacks to enhance StreetView" AND "Want To Wear This Street View Backpack?" * * * A #RealisticVirtualHarbin for SOAKING? @HarbinBook in a single interactive #RealisticVirtualEarth for everything & research? Visit Harbin Gate: http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg (access http://bit.ly/HarbinBook) Work with Image-Net http://image-net.org/about-publication for AI & machine learning too)?


Hi Karin,

Thanks so much for your email. Persistent Identifiers - PIDs - make much sense. I sometimes feel overwhelmed by Wikidata's scalability and into its ~300 languages too, and am not sure why either. I wonder, with regards to your thinking, how PIDs would interface with WikiCommons' identifiers (for ex.), and Europeana digital museum identifiers.

And I wonder too where major museums and libraries are heading with these questions, online especially (and in 200 countries)? And in a wiki-vein, and since you're an artist (as am I in part), how could you assign a PID to your art work, and add it to Wikipedia? And what is Wikipedia's approach in general to PIDs, or similar, and how does this interface work? And how does this interface with the National Library of Sweden's approach, the Library of Congress in the US, and the Smithsonian and Harvard museums' approaches, or the Staatsbibliothek Berlin https://twitter.com/sbb_news work, for example? (Apologies for not writing / speaking Swedish).

Looking forward to learning more.

Best regards, Scott

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( A realistic virtual earth for museums? - https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums?src=hashtag_click - in a single realistic interactive virtual earth for everything? Am thinking Google Street View with time slider / Maps / Earth / TensorFlow with Second Life for avatar bots and group build-ability, but realistic - https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarth?src=hashtag_click And what happens to Persistent Identifiers (PIDs) and scalability when we, (and archaeologists, for ex.) can bring Google Street View cars and even Google Street View video backpacks to art object image generation, I wonder? eg  https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1235357771744169985?s=20 or https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1235358507890651136?s=20).

PPS
Here's an example ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg (accessible from ~ https://twitter.com/HarbinBook ~ http://bit.ly/HarbinBook ~) from Google Street View regarding my actual-virtual Harbin Hot Springs' ethnographic project, where I've added this photo to Street View, which I took in 2001, added it in around 2009, and it says now the date 2015 - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harbin+Hot+Springs/@38.7860806,-122.6518315,3a,110.2y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipOR33JEA3qzAchuAOEFPss-U_w6cXPc-OsiNgSE!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOR33JEA3qzAchuAOEFPss-U_w6cXPc-OsiNgSE%3Dw203-h153-k-no!7i576!8i436!4m8!3m7!1s0x0:0xde57c3ab0ecaa2c9!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d38.7860806!4d-122.6518315 . Would I assign it a PID, in your thinking? Would Google ? And what is Google's approach ? (And regarding Image-Net - http://image-net.org/about-publication - for AI and machine learning too)?

Thanks so much.



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From: 
khansson@dsv.su.se

Karin Hansson

3:06 AM (8 hours ago)
to me, Magnus
Hi everyone,
Thanks for the information, but I have to admit I was a bit overwhelmed and not sure about why?

Regarding the conversation I had with Magnus about the need for unique identifiers for pictures: There are similar discussions in the area open research data ORD. This report suggest a persistent identifier (PID) to any research data: Sustainable and FAIR Data Sharing in the Humanities: Recommendations of the ALLEA Working Group E-Humanities. doi:10.7486/DRI.tq582c863

P 28: “Preservation is generally considered valuable
as a goal only when access to the preserved
material is provided. For access to be trusted
over time, digital data, or ‘digital objects’ should
be provided with a persistent identifier (PID) so
that data can be located even if their location on
the internet changes. A PID is a globally unique,
persistent and resolvable identifier that is based
on an openly identified schema. PIDs create
stable links for objects, and increasingly are the
preferred method for citation and reuse, enabling
consistent attribution and tracking. PIDs can
identify many different entities, from born-digital
objects (documents, data, software) to physical
objects (people, samples), to conceptual entities
(organisations, projects). Examples commonly
used for data include DOIs, ARKs, and Handle, but
identifiers should also be applied to other entities,
such as authors/researchers (ORCIDs), projects
(RAIDs), and permanent locations on the web
(PURL).

I just thought this might be valuable as a comparison/argument for the idea about unique identifiers for pictures

Best regards, Karin


Från: WUaS - World University and School <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com>
Datum: lördag 29 februari 2020 20:44
Till: Magnus Sälgö <salgo60@msn.com>, Karin Hansson <khansson@dsv.su.se>
Ämne: Re: Greetings - "Understand how new Europeana Entity Agents can be created"

Hi Magnus and Karin, 

Re further conversation, thanks Magnus for the Europeana - https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en - information in Telegram. Am partly seeking to answer my own questions regarding World Univ & Sch in my email to you, from the links you provided. 




And since World Univ & Sch's front end wiki subject pages are a bit like Wikipedia's - eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europeana with its Info Box which draws information from Wikidata, for ex. - eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7704 - and which 'structured knowledge database' World Univ & Sch - eg https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Museums - will draw from in a similar way, I'm learning here. Thank you for this edifying conversation. 

So I next added "Europeana - digitalized museum collections' link https://www.europeana.eu/" newly to the WUaS Museums' page https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Museums - which one main idea for WUaS.

And further, with an interest in facilitating wiki-adding photos to a realistic virtual earth such as Google Street View, I found the Louvre museum in Paris in Google Street View (with its TIME SLIDER) - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Louvre+Museum/@48.8606111,2.337644,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xb975fcfa192f84d4!8m2!3d48.8606111!4d2.337644 . 

I then found in Europeana the main page for the sculpture "The Winged Victory of Samothrace - Nike" which is in the Louvre - https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=winged+victory+of+samothrace - and then some images for Nike in Europeana - https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/2020903/KAS358.html?q=winged+victory+of+samothrace#dcId=1583003660830&p=1 . 

I then found "Nike" itself in Google Street View - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Louvre+Museum/@48.8606111,2.337644,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPoR96VgFEXkk2nZScqIJAuNcI1_iLABGbZaPnh!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPoR96VgFEXkk2nZScqIJAuNcI1_iLABGbZaPnh%3Dw203-h270-k-no!7i3024!8i4032!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xb975fcfa192f84d4!8m2!3d48.8606111!4d2.337644 - and if I had taken an excellent and unique photo (or video with docent presentation) of "Nike" I'd consider adding it to Street View as well, when and where I was standing in the Louvre I took it, so that this might become eventually part of the basis for an interactive Realistic Virtual Earth for Museums. (Now how to add many different Nike photos into a Realistic Virtual Earth for Museums in Google Street View with time slider for academic research and knowledge generation, and visiting too at different times in the Louvre's history, and in different ways? - is one question). 

But how further to engage Wikidata regarding Europeana newly in Wikidata - and in World University and School's developing, conceptually, realistic virtual earth for museums (and archaeology!)? 

Am thinking this through here, and learning about Wikidata (which WUaS is in) ... and newly with regards to Europeana. Have added some of our communications here already - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/aurora-prepping-for-pi-day-with-scratch.html . (Sorry I don't speak Swedish - and thank you for your understanding of English, Magnus and Karin!) 

Regards, Scott

PS Please check out too the #HashTag - #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums and regarding - 
"One interactive #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums ? Europeana museum - https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en since World Univ & Sch's front end wiki subject pages are like Wikipedia's eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europeana with its Info Box drawing on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7704 - eg https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Museums ~ "

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1233839813473767430?s=20


On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:14 AM WUaS - World University and School <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Magnus,

Thanks for this in Telegram: 

Getting unique identifiers for pictures in all platforms as we have ORCID for people and DOI for articles is to important ....
Right now we have smithsonian looking into this https://twitter.com/smithsonian/status/1233089929191673856?s=20

Smithsonian
https://twitter.com/salgo60 https://twitter.com/SiobhanLeachman (and 2 others) Thanks for asking! Our team is looking into this now.

First off, what's an Agent in the sense of 'Europeana Entity Agents' and regarding this Phabricator item? And how would it 'act' (as a bot here?)

Cheers, Scott


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:15 PM WUaS - World University and School <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Magnus and Karin,
I had removed the Phabricator address when I emailed you both earlier today, but apparently AI or similar re-included it. (And I've since deleted the comment from Phabricator, Magnus, per your request)
Here's my email which was addressed to just you two. 
Best regards, Scott

Dear Magnus and Karin,
Greetings from the SF Bay Area. Am exploring to -
"Understand how new Europeana Entity Agents can be created ..."
·   and am learning here (having donated CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ
& Sch to Wikidata for co-development in 2015 and received WUaS Miraheze
MediaWiki as 'front end' in 2017 as a consequence, but they're not
interoperable yet, and where WUaS has an all-museums' ever focus -
beginning with - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects -
each a wiki subject page for open teaching & learning, and in all 7111
known living languages, as well as in a single interactive iterating
realistic virtual world for wiki-adding too - think Google Street View with
time slider Maps Earth TensorrFlow with SL etc ).
So, since "In Europeana there is nearly no Linked data and Agents is just
about one museum saying that this painting is created by xxx that is the
same creator we see in other museums ...."
I'm curious about what an Agent is here, to begin - and how would such an
agent here work with Linked Open Data?.
In addition, 3 brainstorming items/ questions:
How to plan for Wikidata into WUaS Museum Wiki PAGES (at MIT OCW-centric
WIKI World Univ & Sch, which again is planning to create wiki pages for all
museums in all 7,111 known living languages) ?
How to plan for Wikidata into 1 wiki realistic virtual earth (think
Streetview with group-buildable Second Life with avatars, but realistic)?
... (and regarding a new social science method i'm developing called -
ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - with linked open data - see in general
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy?m=0
)?
And how even to add new images of paintings taken by someone wearing Google
Glass to Europeana or Wikidata? Google Glass is here (and the idea too) -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/anagallis-arvensis-tour-us-national.html?m=0
...
For example, also from this Youtube video - Crocker Art Museum Sacramento
CA -
https://youtu.be/rL6LTiswXbk - in a related way?
I think as I learn more about how this would work, I'll also learn about
agents, Europeana and Wikidata integration re its structured knowledge
database, and for querying.
Thanks, Scott

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- World University and School

- 415 480 4577


- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 






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Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' w/i five years enabling family historians to search for burial records & locations in an online database -https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8068893/Church-England-launch-Google-Maps-graves-five-years.html #RealisticVirtualEarth #RealisticVirtualEarthForArchaeology #RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics ~


https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1235356907889541120?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1235357771744169985?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1235358507890651136?s=20


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Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' w/i five years enabling family historians to search for burial records & locations in an online database -https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8068893/Church-England-launch-Google-Maps-graves-five-years.html #RealisticVirtualEarth #RealisticVirtualEarthForArchaeology #RealisticVirtualEarthForHistory ~

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1235357397327024128?s=20






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video backpacks #GoogleStreetView >create art object images
Google "Trekkers" use backpacks to enhance StreetView
https://youtu.be/G7r8EFn54Q4
Want To Wear This Street View Backpack?
https://youtu.be/IEPxlpjBYOo
-https://www.theverge.com/2013/6/27/4471740/google-invites-you-to-borrow-its-trekker-street-view-backpacks-and -
#RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums @WorldUnivAndSch~


https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1235628853134913536?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1235629226235056128?s=20
https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1235635670523072515?s=20
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1235635923578052609?s=20



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Google Street View video backpacks for art object image generation


Google "Trekkers" use backpacks to enhance Street View

https://youtu.be/G7r8EFn54Q4

Want To Wear This Street View Backpack?

https://youtu.be/IEPxlpjBYOo


Google invites you to borrow its Trekker Street View backpacks and photograph the world
https://www.theverge.com/2013/6/27/4471740/google-invites-you-to-borrow-its-trekker-street-view-backpacks-and

Trek the world with Google Maps

https://youtu.be/SuiEmxDklKw


Trying out Google's heavy Street View Trekker backpack

https://youtu.be/y2HAQBI9Vq8



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A realistic virtual earth for museums?  #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums in a single interactive #RealisticVirtualEarth for everything? Am thinking Google Street View with TIME SLIDER /Maps/Earth/TensorFlow with Second Life for avatar bots & group build-ability, but realistic


https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1235614678564265984?s=20




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A #RealisticVirtualHarbin for SOAKING? @HarbinBook in a single interactive #RealisticVirtualEarth for everything & research? Visit Harbin Gate: http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg (access http://bit.ly/HarbinBook) Work with Image-Net http://image-net.org/about-publication for AI & machine learning too)?

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1235624709279993856?s=20
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1235626280378236928?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1235626473244905472?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1235626731408478208?s=20





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