Workshop on Industry Lens on Undergraduate Best Practices - ISSIP &

The National Science Foundation

https://issip.org/issip-nsf-workshop-3-industry-lens-on-undergraduate-best-practices/

Thoughts about, for undergraduates, how to develop the 'hand' aspect (of MIT"s 'Mens et Manus' re CC-4 ocw.mit.edu, which WUaS is growing from) to learning STEM skills now on the internet? (One example: 'WUaS Home Robotics' with the 3 Lego Robotics' kits physically ... and then virtually in a #RealisticVirtualEarth for robotics in VR, - to learn robotics and programming with the Scratch programming language)? Thanks for this conversation opportunity! - Scott GK MacLeod (sgkmacleod@worlduniversityandschool.org - @WUaSPress - @WorldUnivAndSch)

Solar decathlon promotes soft skills as it takes several disciplines to design and build the smart house.

What's emerging in virtual reality for your undergraduate interns and intern programs for further hands on engineering aspects of STEM learning? Are you developing your intern educational programs in virtual reality?

Am curious how these could develop in a realistic virtual earth for design (am thinking Google Street View with time slider, Maps, Earth TensorFlow Translate for design) - thanks!

At CC-4 Best STEAM wiki World Univ & Sch, and as an anthropologist, - and regarding Virtual Reality - am curious how to develop, out of the box, and brainstorming-wise, Actual-Virtual, Physical-Digital approaches to ethnographic field work in both a #RealisticVirtualHarbin Hot Springs (my Actual-Virtual Ethnographic Field Site), and in Google Street View with time slider, Maps, Earth, such that students could both develop Virtual Reality hands on skills (as undergraduate interns) and with TensorFlowAI machine learning too ... and which might help students find careers in industry too. So how best to help students develop new Computer Science skills through this - and apply this to any realistic virtual earth Virtual Reality place, or STEM field site, on earth, or in space, (and at the molecular and cellular levels too)? Thoughts about student internships for developing virtual reality skills in your companies' intern programs further, in these regards?

World Univ & Sch seeks to hire eventually 2.3 million people from all 200 countries as major online universities, and in all 7139 known living languages (also re diversity questions) ... so how to plan for developing new approaches curricula for the demands in industry for undergraduate intern programs - at World Univ & Sch itself, is one question, and how, while significantly developing new knowledge generation approaches thanks to the internet, with ocw.mit.edu, and newly virtual reality ... and then collaborate with many universities and companies further?

Brainstorming-wise, in what ways could WUaS do this emerging out of the state of California itself as an organizing institution ... and for academic undergraduate internships in STEM .. and regarding faculty tracks too ... and in conversation here?

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National Science Foundation and ISSIP text chat ...

from 25780683143 Guest to Everyone: 9:17 AM

This is Andrzej Rucinski Professor Emeritus University of New Hampshire & ISSIP Ambassador (sorry for 25780683143

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 9:40 AM

'Mens et manus' - Mind and hand is MIT's motto, I think (https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch where World Univ & Sch is like CC-4 MIT OCW in its 4 languages, and like Wikipedia in its 300 languages, planning free online degrees from home, Bachelor, PhD, Law, MD, and IB High School or similar) ... thanks, Kane Patrick!

from Kerry Brenner to Everyone: 9:43 AM

Please share your questions in the chat and we will ask the panelists to reply after they finish their presentations.

from Martha Russell to Everyone: 9:44 AM

The Network Academy transformed learning about edge topics! It's a fantastic model.

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 9:50 AM

from Kane Patrick CYSC BEX to Everyone: 9:55 AM

Solar decathlon promotes soft skills as it takes several disciplines to design and build the smart house.

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 9:57 AM

Am curious how these could develop in a realistic virtual earth for design (am thinking Google Street View with time slider, Maps, Earth TensorFlow Translate for design) - thanks!

from Nancy to Everyone: 9:58 AM

Kane Patrick cross discipline projects are excellent opportunities for students to develop soft skills.

from yassi@issip.org to Everyone: 9:58 AM

@Joe, can you expand more on which school do you go to re-recruit interns? And why?

from Joe Barsi to Everyone: 9:59 AM

sure

from yassi@issip.org to Everyone: 10:02 AM

@Nancy - For industry-academia partnership for senior projects, what are some of the challenges that you see, and how you and some of the schools you partner with overcome those challenges?

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 10:02 AM

@Renee, can you expand more on how Cisco expanded into online learning over the last 20 months too, please (beyond Network Academy, and Webex Meetings, if relevant)? Thanks!

from Nancy to Everyone: 10:05 AM

One of the largest challenges with the senior project program is coordination. Industry sponsors must participate in order for the program to work, Students must make progress on their work and be able to complete it, and Professors need to be available to assist student teams on technology and implementation decisions. The program at NC State works because the have a full-time program manager that coordinates all these aspects for the course.

from yassi@issip.org to Everyone: 10:12 AM

@Renee, if a 2-year or 4-year college wanted to partner with the Net Academy, where would they start?

from Nancy to Everyone: 10:14 AM

Another opportunity for students to gain some real world experience is to collaborate on an open source project. This give some good real-world experience where students can gain new skills.

from yassi@issip.org to Everyone: 10:26 AM

I would love to hear from all panelists about the main attributes of those undergraduate programs that you believe align well with industry's needs.

from Martha Russell to Everyone: 10:27 AM

The partnership opportunities are very interesting and challenging to pull off - a potential catalyst role for NSF. The non-academic programs are able to change faster. How might we reduce the NIH barrier among academic institutions?

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 10:27 AM

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 10:49 AM

At CC-4 Best STEAM wiki World Univ & Sch, and as an anthropologist, - and regarding Virtual Reality - am curious how to develop, out of the box, and brainstorming-wise, Actual-Virtual, Physical-Digital approaches to ethnographic field work in both a #RealisticVirtualHarbin Hot Springs (my Actual-Virtual Ethnographic Field Site), and in Google Street View with time slider, Maps, Earth, such that students could both develop Virtual Reality hands on skills (as undergraduate interns) and with TensorFlowAI too ... and which might help students find careers in industry too. So how best to help students develop new Computer Science skills through this - and apply this to any realistic virtual earth Virtual Reality place, or STEM field site, on earth, or in space, (and at the molecular and cellular levels too)? Thoughts about student internships for developing virtual reality skills in your companies' intern programs further, in these regards?

from Ralph Badinelli to Everyone: 10:50 AM

I am thankful that the panel identified learning how to learn as the essential outcome of higher education,. This outcome highlights the difference between education and training. Too often, companies and even universities focus on specific skill sets and certifications which does not build general problem-solving ability and the adaptability that future workers require.

from Kane Patrick CYSC BEX to Everyone: 10:50 AM

I have to leave for another meeting. Thank you for the opportunity!

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 10:51 AM

Thanks, All, and Patrick Kane, Kerry Brenner, Amit, Joe Barsi, Yassi!

from Joe Barsi to Everyone: 10:51 AM

Thank you everyone!

from Jo Yuen to Everyone: 10:51 AM

Will you claim the host back? Then, you can pause recording during break.

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:11 AM

+1, Justin - good point, and I fully agree

from Rick Rafey to Everyone: 11:12 AM

Another question, since we're partially focused on curriculum in the broader workshops, is how colleges and universities can best adapt their curriculum to include more applied tracks, so that it's not just the more "applied" universities that can directly help fulfill this need?

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:12 AM

Academics with good industry networks are key to help students

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:15 AM

+1 @Nancy - agree faculty have to know how the knowledge they teach is applied broadly in industry.

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:16 AM

+1 @Nancy, agree that having faculty/teachers who know where the knowledge they are teaching about is used in real-world industry applications. Some faculty are expert at making than an exciting connection. Some are not.

from Justin Sewell to Everyone: 11:16 AM

Currently an MBA student at SJSU and I can agree!

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:17 AM

Thanks @Lou - https://www.sjsu.edu/engineering/student-success/studentprograms/svls/index.php

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:18 AM

+1 @Lou, great example of a best practice - a symposium like that for students to hear from industry

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 11:18 AM

If I rephrased question 1 to what are the liberal arts' colleges' attributes that best prepare graduates for demands in industry, I first think in terms of Reed College and its approach to teaching knowledge learning and generation, so basic research in STEM, for example, via the conference method ... but it explicitly stays apart from industry - as part of its educational and pedagogical focus. But MIT itself is a liberal arts' education, with remarkable research agendas, and has explicitly developed relations with industry in a myriad of STEAM ways ... are there ways one could adapt Reed College's approach to knowledge generation (my alma mater) newly with industry, and at MIT OCW-centric World Univ & Sch?

from Lou Freund to Everyone: 11:21 AM

Thanks, Jim for the link the the Silicon Valley Leaders Forum page on the SJSU website.

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:28 AM

Except perhaps in business schools - do they have industry connection incentives?

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 11:29 AM

from Terri Griffith to Everyone: 11:30 AM

https://www.rrbm.network/

from Terri Griffith to Everyone: 11:30 AM

https://hibar-research.org/

from Scott GK MacLeod to Everyone: 11:32 AM

from Terri Griffith to Everyone: 11:44 AM

@Jim -"Except perhaps in business schools - do they have industry connection incentives?" To your point, getting there. RRBM has a partner in AACSB (the US B-School top accreditor) and schools are looking to add "impact" to the promotion and tenure process. Michigan is our top example.

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:45 AM

There is a principle-agent (economics problem)

from Terri Griffith to Everyone: 11:46 AM

Continuing on incentives. This is one of our top awards -- and key is the value offered to the world: https://www.rrbm.network/taking-action/awards/2021-responsible-research-in-management-award-winners-announcement/

from Terri Griffith to Everyone: 11:47 AM

...and how might the academic/industry partnership support all the work rather than add to it?

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:49 AM

+1 @Terri - way cool award! https://www.rrbm.network/taking-action/awards/2021-responsible-research-in-management-award-winners-announcement/

from Jim Spohrer to Everyone: 11:52 AM

FYI - one of my attempts to teach others in industry how to "do it" with students and faculty - https://service-science.info/archives/3084

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Seeking now Scottish Small Pipes' students (was: 'How to order a Walsh Scottish small pipe chanter in B flat?' - to Walsh Bagpipes in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada) ...

Scott MacLeod sgkmacleod@gmail.com

Mon, Dec 6, 2:30 PM (2 days ago)

to Scott, Janie, Alex, Andrew, George, Jean

Dear Jean,

Greetings on Antigonish, Nova Scotia, at Walsh Bagpipes, from the SF Bay Area! How are you and John? I hope this finds you both very well.

Thanks so much for the B flat SSP chanter I got from you in 2019 ... am enjoying playing it much these days. I'm writing to inquire if you have by any chance a bulletin board at Walsh Bagpipes in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, and if you could even possibly please post the attached flyer re my seeking to find a Scottish Small Pipes' student or two to give lessons to. I just have said farewell to one SSP student after nearly 2 years of giving lessons via Skype (at first from the SF Bay Area to him in SF, and then he moved to Georgia, and so from the SF Bay Area to Georgia in recent months) and both with Light Music (Ceol Beag) and Piobaireachd (Ceol Mor). We used much The College of Piping's 3 tutors, the Green Tutor, Vol. 1, the Blue Tutor, Vol, 2, and the Yellow Tutor, Vol. 4 Piobaireachd, and many other resources, but I think these books and approaches are great learning information technologies to begin with, in part. Do you get many inquiries for teachers on the Scottish Small Pipes at Walsh Bagpipes?.

I very much enjoy the sound too of Scottish Small Pipes, and not only with the 3 chanters (A, B flat, and D), but also with the 4 drones (one a combo drone), thanks to John Walsh's skillful making of these.

All the best,

Scott

http://scottmacleod.com/piping.htm

Scott GK MacLeod

john.walsh2@ns.sympatico.ca

Tue, Dec 7, 8:15 AM (1 day ago)

to me

Hi Scott

Thank you for your email. We no longer have a store front ( strictly manufacturing ).

And there is limited piping interest in the area.

Good to hear the pipes are still behaving nicely.

Season’s Greetings and Keep Well

Cheers,

Jean

Scott MacLeod sgkmacleod@gmail.com

Tue, Dec 7, 10:42 AM (1 day ago)

to Scott, Janie, Alex, Andrew, George, Lynne, Lydia, Peter, Stuart, Larry, Jean

Dear Jean, and John, All,

Thanks so much for your reply this morning from your Walsh Bagpipes in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada, and regarding the Scottish Small Piping lessons' flier I asked if you might be able to post on a bulletin board -

"Hi Scott

Thank you for your email. We no longer have a store front ( strictly manufacturing ).

And there is limited piping interest in the area.

Good to hear the pipes are still behaving nicely.

Season’s Greetings and Keep Well

Cheers,

Jean"

Scottish small pipes' wiki school here - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Scottish_smallpipes_and_borderpipes - and while if you search on 'Walsh' you'll find a number of instances, it's only recently that World Univ & Sch is beginning to think of adding a Bulletin Board section to each wiki school subject (https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects) at WUaS (like in Universities with their bulletin boards for students to post things for sale, which could become interesting in digital form too) ...

... and while I added a new 'Bulletin Board' subsection at WUaS to both of the following main pages recently (as the founder, admin, coder and creator of World Univ & Sch so far), I can't seem to find these new subsections presently - I even tried to add this again to these two wiki subjects but get the database error message below - (and WUaS is working out further how we want to approach this question of student marketplaces re bulletin boards too, while not seeking advertising whatsoever ... so please stay tuned, and re possibly Walsh Bagpipes posting something to this Scottish Small Pipes' bulletin board in the future) -

https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects

https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE

(But I can find this other new subsection I added recently too - Technology Scouting (add URLs) - whereas I added the "Bulletin Board" subsection from my smartphone, experimentally, but the Technology Scouting section from my laptop .. Lydia? Markus Kroetzsch? someone who might know why I can't add these "Bulletin Boards" section ? )

... and where Lynne Miller at House of Bagpipes SF, as well as I seeking possibly Scottish small piping students, could add openly to these bulletin boards ... (Am appreciative here too that Google is an advertising company, but that Wikipedia has avoided advertising for the most part). And FYI, WUaS is like Wikipedia in 300 languages, with CC-4 MIT OCW in its 4 languages, and planning to offer 1) free-to-students' online degrees (Bachelor, PhD, Law, MD and IB high school in each of 200 countries, and in their main languages), and 2) create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in all 7,139 known living languages.

Thanks again for your email, Jean!

Cheers,

Scott

http://scottmacleod.com/piping.htm -

https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/bagpiping

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScottishSmallPipes?src=hashtag_click

Scott_GK_MacLeod_WUaS_worlduniversityandschool.org
@scottmacleod Oct 9
Scott's #ScottishSmallPiping ~http://scottmacleod.com/piping.htm New "Honey in the Bag" #ScottishSmallPipes ALBUM …https://scottmacleodhoneyinthebagscottishsmallpipesbagpiping.bandcamp.com (& for online lessons, email scott@scottmacleod.com) See too free, open /Bagpipe_Tutorials wiki, subject page & https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Scottish_smallpipes_and_borderpipes…
@WorldUnivAndSch ~

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1446886457491156998?s=20

Some related wiki subjects or schools for open teaching and learning, and eventually planned in Scottish Gaelic and many other languages - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic_language -