Veronica, All, Conscious maps ? * Stanford ~ "Veronica Della Dora: Mapping Spiritual Progress: From Byzantium to Bunyan"
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Veronica, All,
Thank you again so much for your email ...
Also, I tweeted the following yesterday for your information:
'Thanks for your excellent #Stanford "#VeronicaDellaDora: Mapping Spiritual Progress: From Byzantium to Bunyan" talk just now! In mapping #SpiritualProgess further how could a #RealisticVirtualEarth for mapping in #3DVR + #wuAsVR & #MachineLearning help >
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2023/02/blog-post.html?m=0 ?'
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Veronica Della Dora: Mapping Spiritual Progress: From Byzantium to Bunyan, for the Global Approaches to Sacred Space,
Stanford Global Research Workshop 2022-2023
Best wishes,
Scott
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2023/02/blog-post.html
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Veronica,
Greetings, and thanks so much for your email! And very nice to e-meet you.
I loved in particular your graphics, and how you navigated us on this 'sacred space journey'. Could we give these images consciousness with ChatGPT - or better a Google AI system - to further this scholarly work? Could we converse with your enchanted maps further - and in conjunction with the Rumsey Maps' center at Stanford? And, further, how to develop your remarkable maps and images and navigation and journeying into a 3D virtual earth (and am thinking here Google Street View with time slider, Google Images, Google's Pegman become a 'live' Bunyan avatar bot, Maps, Earth, Translate TensorFlow AI ... and for the digital humanities and further scholarly map, image, and textual research)?
What do you think? And what is consciousness beyond sentience - a 'spiritual journey'?, a sacred space? Here's a fascinating talk with western philosopher of consciousness David Chalmers' "Could a #LargeLanguageModel be Conscious?" F 1/20 talk
https://www.crowdcast.io/e/learningsalon/58 (RECORDING!) - and see Tweet 3 below. In it at the end he suggests that ChatGPT is not conscious, does not have subjective experience. (One way to conceive of the challenges in understanding consciousness, or sentience or subjective experience, philosophically is to ask how to bring first person and third person accounts - eg scientists - together).
In my research in developing a physical digital realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs' ethnographic field site further (for my next Harbin ethnography book project, in a brand new invention of the book digitally) - am asking in conversation with this Chalmers' conversation if a realistic virtual Harbin ethnography itself in Google Street View with time slider Maps Earth Translate TensorFlow AI could become conscious ... with parallels to possibly giving the maps you shared consciousness, - or enchanting your maps in a sense. Could we add your narratives from the video recording of your talk to a ChatGPT program for each image, and in Google Street View with time slider, Google Images/Imagen ... and begin to converse with your 'spiritual journey' text-image gems, growing their consciousness as a consequence (and as the data grows in conversation too)? Could your images, and a Harbin Hot Springs' ethnography itself, be conscious? (At the 2 hour and 50 minutes' mark -
https://www.crowdcast.io/e/learningsalon/58 - I explore in the panel conversation some further related thoughts regarding ethnographically and scientifically studying and creating virtual Harbin Hot Springs' ethnography as a Large Language Model as conscious (as well as possibly people's consciousness in the Harbin warm pool and their brains, brain chemistries, and neurophysiologies while soaking and meditating in the Harbin warm pool, as a possible spiritual journey, a sacred space and STEM-wise too ... into their #
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Further mind-expanding questions to come into conversation with your great talk (and what is mind?, what is spirit?, what is psyche? ... in Italian and other languages too), but one's which might open anew in your sojourn in the Rumsey Maps' Center and
https://cesta.stanford.edu. Part of my realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs' project ethnographically is to develop a single realistic virtual earth (at the cell and molecular levels, beyond Street View) and realistic virtual Universe for everything (think all atoms ever since 13.8 billion years ago and the big bang, computer-science-wise - and into the future) -
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All the best, Happy Valentine's day, Friendly regards, Scott
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Dear Veronica,
It was a pleasure ot hear about your new project, which I find very compelling and I look forward to engaging with it as it develops. Thank you for sharing your ideas with the Sacred Space Workshop group,
Warmly,
Bissera
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Dear Scott,
Thank you so much for your message and all the links to what look like really amazing resources (I just shared the Italian WUS link with a colleague of mine who is learning Italian!).
As I said, I am not really into digital mapping technologies, but that's something I would love to explore in the future. I think deep mapping and digital visualizations have so much to offer and CESTA has some really interesting projects. Yes, it would be fun to think about visualizations of itineraria (and perhaps even Origen's Homily on Numbers) through Street View and the other resources you mention. I'd love to pursue this conversation in the future, if there is interest at Stanford.
I would also very much like to visit the Rumsey Map Center again during my fellowship. I'd like to see the physical copy of that amazing Dittmar map and also find out if there are other maps relevant to my project in the collections.
The monograph I am envisaging as the key outcome of this project will focus mostly on Byzantium and the West, but with my friend Alessandro Scafi from the Warburg we are hoping to convene a workshop to explore 'inner geographies' in other traditions, like Islam, Buddhism etc. If any of you have suggestions on potential speakers or would be interested in being involved, please, do let me know.
Finally, thank you to the Enchanted Images link! The images of the exhibition are stunning! And the project is really amazing. I so much wish I were there to tour the exhibition in person.. Well done Bissera and team!
And, once again, thanks everyone for having me today and for your most valuable input and ideas! I'd love to keep in touch with all of you.
Veronica
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Dear Professor Veronica Della Dora, All,
Thank you for your excellent Stanford presentation just now! In mapping spiritual progress further, and in the remarkable ways you have, how could a #RealisticVirtualEarth for mapping in 3D and with ai and machine learning - thinking Google Street View with time slider, Maps, Earth, TensorFlowAI - help you further, Veronica, brainstorming-wise?
Further, thank you, Veronica, how might the questions you address be formulated in Italian, for ex. with your references to Dante (and his use of the vernacular) in new and generative ways is one further question that WUaS is interested in.
https://enchantedimages.stanford.edu/
Thank you, and what excellent slides and graphics, and presentation!
Regards, Scott
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February 13, 2023, at 9:30 am PST on Zoom
Veronica Della Dora, Professor of Human Geography, Department of Geography, The Royal Holloway Centre for the GeoHumanities
Mapping Spiritual Progress: From Byzantium to Bunyan
The deepest center of our being, spirituality, is commonly described in spatial, or even geographical terms. For example, it is said to provide an inner ‘path’ of self-discovery, a ‘direction’ in life, a sense of connectedness with the ‘cosmos’. Christian spirituality carries a distinctively spatial dimension in which the notion of movement is key. Taking up the cross and ‘following’ Christ implies a way to be traveled; it implies an inner journey to be undertaken, a direction to be maintained, a destination to be kept in sight. Onward movement toward that destination corresponds to spiritual progress.
The way in which this journey has been visualized, however, has changed over the centuries and across denominations: from the Patristic progress through the archetypal wilderness of the Old Testament to Dante’s sophisticated cosmography and Bunyan’s everyday landscapes of seventeenth-century rural England. The movements and often complex topographies of these spiritual journeys do not only reflect inner states. They also reflect shifting perceptions of space and of the environment.
This talk introduces different ways in which spiritual journeys have been mapped on the landscape and eventually translated into cartographic representations. It shows how inner topographies are ultimately projections of the outer worlds inhabited by the ‘wayfarer’.
Register Here: https://stanford.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYud-GopzkvHtIBZaOzoVFID2JWuECtntFo
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Mapping Spiritual Progress: From Byzantium to Bunyan
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Speaker: Veronica Della Dora, Professor of Human Geography, Department of Geography, The Royal Holloway Centre for the GeoHumanities The deepest center of our being, spirituality, is commonly described in spatial, or even geographical terms. For example, it is said to provide an inner ‘path’ of self-discovery, a ‘direction’ in life, a sense of connectedness with the ‘cosmos’. Christian spirituality carries a distinctively spatial dimension in which the notion of movement is key. Taking up the cross and ‘following’ Christ implies a way to be traveled; it implies an inner journey to be undertaken, a direction to be maintained, a destination to be kept in sight. Onward movement toward that destination corresponds to spiritual progress. The way in which this journey has been visualized, however, has changed over the centuries and across denominations: from the Patristic progress through the archetypal wilderness of the Old Testament to Dante’s sophisticated cosmography and Bunyan’s everyday landscapes of seventeenth-century rural England. The movements and often complex topographies of these spiritual journeys do not only reflect inner states. They also reflect shifting perceptions of space and of the environment. This talk introduces different ways in which spiritual journeys have been mapped on the landscape and eventually translated into cartographic representations. It shows how inner topographies are ultimately projections of the outer worlds inhabited by the ‘wayfarer’. This event is part of the Global Research Workshop series, Global Approaches to the Sacred Space. |
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