Sunday, July 26, 2020

Magnolia sieboldii: [NTF-talk] The Global God Divide - https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/07/20/the-global-god-divide/ * * * Glad that World Univ & Sch will likely be getting an upcoming new WUaS Open edX platform, with an initial 3-4 courses that MOOCit France is migrating from CC-4 MIT OCW into WUaS courses, for matriculating WUas Bachelor degree students potentially September 1, 2020 ! Please let NtF 18 year olds and other Quaker students know! * * * Going through major smartphone communication withdrawal symptoms due to my smart phone being down, so I'm writing about this in an email on my MacBook Air laptop instead (I could Zoom or Skype here, I suppose


[NTF-talk] The Global God Divide - https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/07/20/the-global-god-divide


Scott MacLeod
11:28 AM (32 minutes ago)
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Nontheist Friends, All,

"What is the connection between belief in God and morality?" Good to read some data. I recall talking with a Quaker family (family friends) in the 1990s (or early 2000s) that data showed that atheists were less than 1 % in the USA, and that the USA was one of richest countries with the highest number of believers (albeit very plural when it comes to religion).

The survey or polling perspective - especially Lee Rainie's at Pew Research- is often interesting re questions such as asking people as a group in the aggregate, and learning what they say ...


The Global God Divide
People’s thoughts on whether belief in God is necessary to be moral vary by economic development, education and age
BY CHRISTINE TAMIR, AIDAN CONNAUGHTON AND ARIANA MONIQUE SALAZAR

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/07/20/the-global-god-divide/

There seem to be some definitional challenges here, such as that the definition of 'God' doesn't appear to be addressed, for example. These challenges could be compounded when surveying across countries, cultures, languages etc. (God as monotheism is mostly in the 27 countries where Arabic is the official language , and the 15+ Christian nation states, and the so-called historically Christian countries - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-christian-countries).

That nontheist Friends (NtFs) seem to have cultivated atheistic or agnostic Quakerism in part, and in relation to the broader RSOF would put NtFs off the purview of this survey, I'd think.

I think an interesting Pew survey could focus on non-theism and morality, and would raise probably a very different set of survey questions, and possibly survey subjects or  respondents.

Not an issue for free-thinking Unitarian Universalists for decades or longer (God and morality in the US, as I see this), but for some Quakers, yes.

Scott

ethics' blog label - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethics

nontheist Friend blog label - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/nontheist%20Friend


Human Rights' wiki schools at WUaS, planned in all 200 countries' and their official languages - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Human_Rights (as part of the WUaS Law Schools in same countries )


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Glad that World Univ & Sch will likely be getting an upcoming new WUaS Open edX platform, with an initial 3-4 courses that MOOCit France is migrating from CC-4 MIT OCW into WUaS courses, for matriculating WUas Bachelor degree students potentially September 1, 2020
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/07/passion-vines-when-might-be-able-to.html ! Please let NtF 18 year olds and other Quaker students know!



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[NTF-talk] The Global God Divide - https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/07/20/the-global-god-divide/

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Scott MacLeod

11:28 AM (32 minutes ago)
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Nontheist Friends, All, 

"What is the connection between belief in God and morality?" Good to read some data. I recall talking with a Quaker family (family friends) in the 1990s (or early 2000s) that data showed that atheists were less than 1 % in the USA, and that the USA was one of richest countries with the highest number of believers (albeit very plural when it comes to religion).

The survey or polling perspective - especially Lee Rainie's at Pew Research- is often interesting re questions such as asking people as a group in the aggregate, and learning what they say ... 


The Global God Divide
People’s thoughts on whether belief in God is necessary to be moral vary by economic development, education and age
BY CHRISTINE TAMIR, AIDAN CONNAUGHTON AND ARIANA MONIQUE SALAZAR


There seem to be some definitional challenges here, such as that the definition of 'God' doesn't appear to be addressed, for example. These challenges could be compounded when surveying across countries, cultures, languages etc. (God as monotheism is mostly in the 27 countries where Arabic is the official language , and the 15+ Christian nation states, and the so-called historically Christian countries - https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-christian-countries).

That nontheist Friends (NtFs) seem to have cultivated atheistic or agnostic Quakerism in part, and in relation to the broader RSOF would put NtFs off the purview of this survey, I'd think. 

I think an interesting Pew survey could focus on non-theism and morality, and would raise probably a very different set of survey questions, and possibly survey subjects or  respondents.

Not an issue for free-thinking Unitarian Universalists for decades or longer (God and morality in the US, as I see this), but for some Quakers, yes.

Scott

ethics' blog label - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethics


Human Rights' wiki schools at WUaS, planned in all 200 countries' and their official languages - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Human_Rights (as part of the WUaS Law Schools in same countries )


PS
Glad that World Univ & Sch will likely be getting an upcoming new WUaS Open edX platform, with an initial 3-4 courses that MOOCit France is migrating from CC-4 MIT OCW into WUaS courses, for matriculating WUas Bachelor degree students potentially September 1, 2020
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/07/passion-vines-when-might-be-able-to.html ! Please let NtF 18 year olds and other Quaker students know! 



-- 
- Scott MacLeod - Founder & President  

- World University and School

- 415 480 4577


- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 




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Scott MacLeod sgkmacleod@gmail.com

7:24 AM (1 hour ago)
to JanieEdGabrielleAnn
Good morning, Ma Mere, Ed, Ann, Gabrielle,

Going through major smartphone communication withdrawal symptoms due to my smart phone being down, so I'm writing about this in an email on my MacBook Air laptop instead (I could Zoom or Skype here, I suppose, but not so early in the morning west-coast time). :) 

Looked up Marriage Counselors in Boston, Massachusetts today. And Psychology Today has a couple of lists of them  - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/marriage-counseling/ma/boston - and - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/marriage-counseling/massachusetts - brainstorming-wise. 

For your listening enjoyment: 
Bach: Complete Partitas

Real Real Time Music Making recent Tweets -  

And when are we going to be able to do Real Real Time Music Making on a smartphone? :) (with one musician in Open Band Berkeley for Scottish Country Dancing, one in Japan, one in South Africa, one in New Zealand and one in Scotland for group video, phones video-ing our musical instruments?:)

Warm regards, Scott







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Hi M, 

Thanks for your email. Gabrielle is a good friend from Reed College, living in San Francisco with her family, and a '(life) coach and facilitator,' and understanding and smart (and on the KP list I just noticed, but am not sure how this would work). Thanks for your other thoughts. I stay in touch, and socially, via emails (now), - and even re Manuel Castells' book "Communication Power." Am appreciative too in these regards of the Desiderata's - "Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story" (https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html)  and George's great thinking especially; emailing friends is a way to speak my truth quietly and clearly (and it's also something I think George sought to listen to among analysands, for example) Language can be therapeutic. I think on my new upcoming 'unlocked' phone - I'll be able to keep both numbers on the same smartphone (412 - - -  - - - - and the free local Google Voice number 415 . Will seek too to limit my group emails to you in particular, which I think I hear you saying in writing. 

Am a writer - as ethnographer too - and also documenter and whistleblower, and through which it might be possible sometimes to effect change even, and in the name of ethics and morality. Here's a UU thinking-related / Quaker / Nontheist Friend email I sent an hour ago - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/07/magnolia-sieboldii-ntf-talk-global-god.html - which you might enjoy. Writing, emailing, thinking, speaking - toward social change for the better has_many plus sides.

Thanks for your Sunday email in my somewhat solitariness! Am seeking a life partner in an ongoing way in these regards, and writing about this has merit, as I think about this, too! Talk to you after I get my new smartphone, potentially on Thursday! :)

Love, Scott





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