Harbin founder Ishvara's emails in 2017 regarding "Naked Harbin Ethnography," and @sgkmacleod @scottmacleod returning to Harbin Hot Springs after 9 years in 2025? (And see all 4-5 of my Harbin-inspired book titles here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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Here's more regarding aging reversal genetic drug therapies emerging, from Harvard and MIT Professor of Genetics' George Church, in a 60 Minutes' 66 second's interview with Scott Pelley -
"How soon could humans reverse the aging process with genetic engineering?" (2019)
"Aging reversal is something that's been proven about eight different ways in animals," geneticist George Church says. So when will humans get to turn back the clock? Church tells 60 Minutes it's not that far away. See the full report, Sunday'
60 Minutes
https://youtu.be/bnCEIPQFNnk
AND more re MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch and Aging_Reversal_Genetics too +
"Dr. Church predicted that human aging could be eradicated by the year 2030....The therapy that aims to reverse aging in people involves gene modification at cellular level" https://www.lifeextension.com/
https://x.com/WorldUnivAndSch/
https://x.com/scottmacleod/
https://x.com/Q_YogaMacFlower/
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Dear Ishvara,
I wrote this back in 2017 I think -
"Thanks for considering coming to give a talk/for a conversation at UC
Berkeley. (I wonder if Alexa as a Harbin MD might like to do such a
possible, what I'll call now, "Teaching Harbin" talk at UC Berkeley
(since she's a Cal alumna, and her sister lives in Berkeley) ... as
Harbin outreach especially, and re the Cal Anthropology department
(and my Harbin book) ... but could inquire with her or other Harbin
MDs about this at some point in the future.
Thanks too for your correspondence a number of times over the past few
days and the invitation to soak - and when you're soaking in the warm
pool - in the autumn of 2015 possibly (which you said is every Sunday
these days around 5pm).
I think I'd like to head to Harbin this Sunday, 9/17, and also to give
you my Harbin book (and potentially to eventually sell it in your
upcoming bookstore when you open in early 2018). And would plan to
come back to the Bay Area this Sunday evening after soaking and
potentially after seeing you, and giving you "Naked Harbin
Ethnography." Seems like Harbin could make a fair amount of money off
this book ... especially if people could see it before and after they
soak (like by returning their camping passes in the past, or similar,
but so that they pass through any possible upcoming bookstore a second
time). I'll call first.
I seek to keep my high energy low, and friendly, on people's radars in
a warm-watery Taoist kind of way.
Hoping possibly to talk about Cuttyhunk and Padanaram-South Dartmouth
at some point in the future.
Gratefully,
Scott"
I think I have a copy of the book"Naked Harbin Ethnography" buried
deep in storage in the SF Bay Area in the East Bay ... and would
further like to give it to you when I see you next, (and when I find
it in storage).
Love, Scott
PS
Just read #2017emails from #HarbinHotSpringsHCCFounder #Ishvara to me
as I head into #Harbin for 1st time since #2015LakeCountyValleyFire
for #SoakingMeditation & it's possible per #Ish's emails that
#HarbinBookstore might begin to carry my 5 #HarbinBooks @WUaSPress
@HarbinBook ~
https://x.com/scottmacleod/sta
https://x.com/WUaSPress/status
https://x.com/HarbinBook/statu
https://x.com/sgkmacleod/statu
https://x.com/WorldUnivAndSch/
https://x.com/Q_YogaMacFlower/
https://x.com/TheOpenBand/stat
Retweeting -
1st lines of #NakedHarbinEthnography: "After you check in at the gate
at #HarbinHotSprings, a #Harbinresident who has worked there for years
often says "#GoPlay"
http://scottmacleod.com/Actual
explore in #RealisticVirtualHarbin
@HarbinBook for #EthnoWikiVirtualWorldGraphy ?
https://x.com/scottmacleod/sta
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2017
Dear Scott: I am 84 and do not go to the city, so no Berkeley Classes. As far as selling your books, that would be up to the bookstore manager and the MD's (Managing Directors, who run the place.)
Right now there is no bookstore. I have not seen any of your writings.
I have not seen your books and am assuming we would like them. Sometime people who have a lot of energy are not welcome to be involved with us and I do not get the word on each person. Should that be the case, I shall go with what they say. I am not suggesting this is the case, but it has happened in the past with people with a lot of energy and I do not want it said that I am going against them. So this is like a fine print legal disclaimer. As it is, I welcome your energy, interest and intent. Love, Ishvara
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Dear Scott: I am 84 and do not go to the city, so no Berkeley Classes. As far as selling your books, that would be up to the bookstore manager and the MD's (Managing Directors, who run the place.)
Right now there is no bookstore. I have not seen any of your writings.
I have not seen your books and am assuming we would like them. Sometime people who have a lot of energy are not welcome to be involved with us and I do not get the word on each person. Should that be the case, I shall go with what they say. I am not suggesting this is the case, but it has happened in the past with people with a lot of energy and I do not want it said that I am going against them. So this is like a fine print legal disclaimer. As it is, I welcome your energy, interest and intent. Love, Ishvara
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott MacLeod [mailto:sgkmacleod@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:35 PM
To: Ishvara
Subject: Re: FW: Thanks
Dear Ishvara,
I was amazed and grateful to have heard back from you. Thank you so much for your emails (and even re my actual/virtual Harbin ethnographic book - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook - https://twitter.com/HarbinBook - for which UC Berkeley Professor Emeritus Nelson Graburn kindly wrote the Foreword, as you may know).
And thank you too, Ishvara, for inviting me up to Harbin this autumn even (and before HCC re-opens for camping in early 2018)!
I'm curious still if Harbin would even get and carry my book for sale (in your upcoming Harbin Gate kiosk) at some point in the future - since you'd potentially benefit from the 40% of the $64.95 list price as a small (retail) bookstore even (so about $26 / copy)?
And while I would love to come up and soak at some point on a Sunday this autumn when you're there at 5 ... this may have to wait a bit until I publish my next Harbin-inspired book, this time of poetry ...
But I would like to invite you to UC Berkeley, Ish, to talk about Harbin this autumn, if you might be available. It might be a great way to invite Cal students to begin to visit Harbin as soon as January.
(I'd also like eventually to teach a course from my actual / virtual ethnographic book to undergraduate and graduate students - including by taking field trips together to Harbin after it re-opens - as well as build a realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs for this as part of a realistic virtual whole earth (even to study, for example, the brain chemistry of bliss - as in the neural cascades of pleasure - that can occur when soaking and meditating in the warm pool). Think again Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider and with OpenSim/SL but realistic, and in all 7,099 living languages - and at the cellular and atomic levels even - and the Google Brain project).
And I'd also interested in eventually exploring doing further extended interviews with you of Harbin's history (and especially re our one excellent interview from 2008 is transcribed in full in my book, I'm glad again to say).
So, if you might be available to come to the UC Berkeley Anthropology Department's Gifford room to talk about Harbin (and perhaps as a kind of outreach to Berkeley students too) - and so that we might then talk about Harbin together for a group of people there - what might be some possible good dates for this. ... I just heard from Nelson Graburn, and I could invite you to talk at a Tourism Studies' Working Group meeting (all on Fridays around 5), potentially, and for Friday, September 29th (there are some other open dates as an alternative).
These other dates are also still open:
September
29 ---------------------------- (available)
October
13th ------------------------------
20th ------------------------------
November
3rd ------------------------------
December
8th ------------------------------
( :) I wouldn't call a possible talk / interview with you "Ish in Two Worlds" (re UC Berkeley's Alfred Kroeber's wife Theodora Kroeber's book "Ishi in Two Worlds" -
https://www.ucpress.edu/book.p
"Talk with University of California students with Harbin Hot Springs'
founder by Robert Hartley (Ishvara), founder of Harbin Hot Springs (since 1972), and of Heart Consciousness Church there (since 1975) re the new anthropology book "Naked Harbin Ethnography: Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin"" :)
May I invite you, Ishvara, to have a conversation about Harbin at UC Berkeley on F September 29th (or one of the other above dates)? Thank you.
(On here with bringing together my next book of Harbin-inspired poetry, due out this autumn from the Press at WUaS).
Gratefully,
Scott
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On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Robert Hartley <ishvara@harbin.org> wrote:
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> Dear Scott: Please pardon my confusing emails. I sent th rebuild udate without the comments.
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> Thanks for the videos – I took a trip down memory land, also remembering Menemsha and Edgardown and Woods Hole. My father had a sailboat anchored in Padanarum-South Dartmouth.
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> The rebuild is fierce but so also Are the obstacles. We have deal with about ten agencies as if we were a new construction project. We are now figuring early 2018 for camping day visits. One of the other emails has a rebuild report. Thanks for all the interest in and support of Harbin. I had no idea you were do involved. I go to the pools every Sunday at 5 PM and you are welcome to partake. Call first -707-987-3747. I was doing to go to your meeting Nov 5, and then saw I ws in 2016. Kivem Ishvara.
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> From: Robert Hartley [mailto:ishvara@harbin.org]
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> Dear Renny: Thank you so much for the check and the thought behind it. It is so nice to see someone in the family who approves of what I do. I hope all is well with you – I imagine so as you seem indestructible. I just passed my 84th, and, as I remember, you are a bit older than me.
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> I enclose our latest rebuilding report, so, if you are interested, you can see what we are up against and how hard we are trying. I am not involved in the construction, being in charge of funding. It is amazing how much they throw at us. They are treating us as strictly as if we were building on virgin soil rather than replacing what they had approved of before. We expect to be open for day visits and camping sometime in the Fall.
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> Harbin Rebuild Update 6/25/2017
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> 1. After our meeting with the county planning on June 22, 2017,
> they approved a Watsu Pool for the Mainside. Previously they had
> declined approval of this pool. The Watsu pool is expected to complete
> with Phase 1 opening;
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> 2. The county planning has given their go ahead for a reception
> trailer. We will need to apply for a zoning permit for this trailer.
> This trailer will be placed in the Lower Parking Lot;
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> 3. Per county’s request a Cultural Resources Survey by, Tom
> Origer and Associates, a qualified Archaeologist from the Local
> Archeological Consultants list provided by the Lake County Community
> Development, has been completed;
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> 4. A Biological Resources Survey by Northwest Biosurvey is being
> conducted. Per the Surveyor the survey will be conducted throughout
> the botanical survey season and the report will be issued late summer
> or earlier. Given the urgent nature of a catastrophic rebuild we
> requested the county planning to proceed with the zoning change and
> general plan amendment application and incorporate any recommendations
> by the Surveyor when the report is completed. The county has accepted
> this;
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> 5. An update copy of the Zoning Map for the new parcel will be
> provided to the county;
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> 6. We met with county’s department of public works engineers on 6/22. Their basic assertion was that we cannot create a check point on a county maintained road. They are, however, open to kiosk at Harbin’s entry at a site which does not act as a check point. We have applied for an encroachment permit for a kiosk at Harbin Springs Road (at Harbin’s entrance). We expect a site meeting in the near future with the county’s Department of Public Works.
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> 7. Per county’s request a revised and updated site plan with
> location of a 60 foot wide public right of way has been completed;
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> 8. The county had asked us to put together Serpentine Dust
> Control through Lake County Air Quality Management District (LCAQMD).
> In our last 40 years of building experience at Harbin Spring there is
> no underlayment of serpentine rock and or soils at the building site.
> The building site has been carefully reviewed by our excavation
> contractor and according to our Geotechnical consultant, the geology
> map shows the site is not underlain by serpentinite bedrock, which is
> to the northeast of the site. The county will accept a letter from our
> geotechnical expert and would not require a LCAQMD plan;
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> 9. We discussed with the county planners about the new fire
> suppression requirements and the new water distribution system/ Cerda
> line. They want the approval of the General Plan before considering
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> 10. The county planners will do a site visit to Harbin in the near
> future after July 4, 2017;
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