Wednesday, January 3, 2024

Giant potato lilac-star flower (Ipomoea mauritiana) (SL - National Flower of Sierra Leone): Freud and Lacan psychoanalysis compared theoretically - without John Money PhD's "Concepts of Determinism" possibly parallel psychological process ...

 

Giant potato lilac-star flower (Ipomoea mauritiana) (SL - National Flower of Sierra Leone): Freud and Lacan psychoanalysis compared theoretically - without John Money PhD's "Concepts of Determinism" possibly parallel psychological process ... 


Happy New Year 2024, John, Ed & Pin! 


Dear John, Ed, and Sid, (Ma, Janie, and Peter Norvig), 

Greetings and happy new year - 

I'd be interested at MIT OCW-centric World Univ & Sch psychiatry - possibly in communication with Wes Sowers MD too - in developing a new approach to conversation with a MD psychiatrist, emerging from -

Eastern cottonhead rabbit: Building on John Money’s exigencies in his section on “Concepts of Determinism” to inform a new kind of theory for talk psychotherapy and study of this clinically, What could such developments add to current outcomes, and especially in terms of diagnoses, as well as in terms of happiness-generation? {e.g engage music, engage loving bliss neurophysiology eliciting, engage Csikszentmihalyi's "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience," Engage A&V's Yoga, plus, ... as well as strategy vis-a-vis these exigencies to do so ?}, Develop this in the psychiatry department of Friends' Hospital in Philadelphia (in the context of medicine, psychiatry and Quakers)?, Here's Michael First, the author of the DSM V, in VIDEO talking about its recent publication - DSM-5 Handbook of Differential Diagnosis: Meet the Author, "Psychiatry," "Psychology," "Psychotherapy," as well as the "Hospital" wiki subjects at WUaS



Also, just texted my mother - 

"Hi Ma! ... Thanks for your email the other day ... they say "The best defense is a good offense" ... and could this mean language or speaking ... as in the Desiderata ``Speak your truth clearly and quietly" (https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html) ... and central to Freud's thinking is "Ich defense" or similar ... and Lacan's tripartite registers' schema - the mirror, the symbolic and the real - with speaking as central and re the symbolic seems to be a new development in psychoanalytic social theory ... and John Money PhD's inhibitory coping strategy ... along with the adhibitory (have to or engage) one, and the explicatory one (from latin for unfold) ... to explain ... (http://scottmacleod.com/JohnMoneyConceptsOfDeterminism.html) is another expression of 'defense' thinking ... and just sent this to John, Ed and Pin - "and in scheduling a first appt with Wes Sowers MD, he and I might be able to navigate upmc univ pitt med ctr organizational restructuring to protect people for example ... and with MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch MD psychiatry as well - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Psychiatry ... Meeting with Wes could help a lot with my own 'defenses' (re networking and language use) both in PA and CA ahead" ...but realize it might take a week or two ..." & re further theorizing or thinking ... What do you think? What are you up to today? How are you doing? Google BardAI on laptop for voice ... could be another avenue to explore such implications of speaking in a therapeutic context ... (whereas I can't speak into my Android OS smartphone in another language yet for example) ... Thoughts, questions, ideas, suggestions? Love, Scott (https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/social%20theory)"

AND 
Just found these 3 succinct Google Bard AI responses about Freud and Lacan psychoanalysis theoretically compared topical and succinct 

Freud and Lacan psychoanalysis compared theoretically - without John Money PhD's "Concepts of Determinism" possibly parallel psychological process ... 

in Google BardAI associated with sgkmacleod@ gmail.com but I changed permissions so that "ANYONE WITH THE LINK" can read these - 


Freud and Lacan Theoretically pt 0 
"Okay Bard, what is Freudian psychoanalysis in terms of the four to five year therapeutic process theoretically compared with Lacanian psychoanalysis in terms of the weekly Psychotherapy meetings therapeutic process theoretically?"


Freud and Lacan Theoretically pt 1 
"What is Freudian psychoanalysis in terms of the four to five year therapeutic process theoretically compared with Lacanian psychoanalysis in terms of the weekly psychotherapy meetings' therapeutic process theoretically ?"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vn6DamXRd2Bhfa7CDtOsIDGunWTOWGjH613nZfygCK0/edit?usp=drivesdk


Freud and Lacan Theoretically pt 2 

"What is the unconscious for Freud and what is the unconscious for Lacan?" 


Thoughts, ideas, questions, suggestions - and regarding the other aspects in the previous emails in this thread? 

I think the conversation with a person MD psychiatrist ... possibly somehow with Google BardAI in an ear device of theirs ... would allow for the social connection I'm looking for ... and re questions too of an "ecology of attention" ... even re loneliness and alienation and similar. 

Scott



On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:42 AM Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
Dear John, Ed, and Sid, 

Happy New Year further ... it could be great to talk potentially with univ pitt med ctr's Univ Pitt Professor Wes Sowers MD for possibly 10 meetings soon-ish ... but am thinking this might take a week or two ... with all my whistle blowing ... and the univ pitt med ctr 'resolve crisis' in cahoots with the city of pgh police in cahoots with craven psychopath??? Swiss or Lebanese murderer soldier frederic khayat  and his attempted murderous run through of me (especially if somehow Ken Thompson MD here in Pgh could have somehow orchestrated this murderous run through of me caught on police installed motion activated surveillance camera of the murderous house at 210 East End avenue Pgh 15206) ... and re my father's first subdural hematoma on univ pitt managed at the time semester at sea on 12/30/04 ... AND EVEN when I met my Reed college friend Tym Lenderking for a hike a little more than a year ago I think near the Great Eastern Trail and the Paw Paw Tunnels in Maryland, and I took the wrong exit to get there, and drove past a univ pitt med ctr new facilitate in MARYLAND ... and as Tym and I were talking about this, on our hike, Tym I think was turning deeply deeply red ... brainstorming-wise due to illegalities at this upmc facility ... with the illegal sex industry with kids and teens and prostitution???  and their latent networks of violence, STEM cell procurement killing of babies very very speculatively across state lines? 

There may be some very very sick univ pitt med ctr directors or executives in the background of univ pitt med ctr medical access to MD psychiatry for example ... even with their own little militias tragically ... and in scheduling a first appt with Wes Sowers MD, he and I might be able to navigate upmc univ pitt med ctr organizational restructuring to protect people for example ... and with MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch MD psychiatry as well - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Psychiatry ... Meeting with Wes could help a lot with my own 'defenses' (re networking and language use) both in PA and CA ahead ...

Thoughts, questions, ideas, suggestions? (I realize that you could forward this email to Wes for example, John, or ... )

Abolitionally, with US states' laws, Friendly regards, best wishes, 
Scott 




PS
There 
could be the beginning of a new PA large language models' law school and witb a Friendly Quaker social justice focus too

New #WUaSLawSchools in CT, CA, PA & MA to develop approaches to abolishing wrongful buying & selling of people -re Yale, Stanford, Penn, & Harvard seeking presidents- as #LLMs too, & w #USfederal, #USstates, #intl, #UniformedServices Law eg









Retweeting 

Strange (I do think) coincidences: Presidential searches are under way, or about to be under way, at 
Yale, Stanford, Penn, and Harvard. They may be competing for some of the same people— & presumably, in spite of all logic and experience, some people will still want those jobs! 



On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 11:27 PM Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
Happy New Year, John, Ed, and Pin! 

Thanks for your encouragement regarding my moving forward into a newly safe Canyon 94516 and / or for visiting me there at 670 Ridgecrest Rd, in dwelling A. How to bring this about? 

Am seeking to talk potentially with a MD psychiatrist about this too ... and to seek to find a life partner with whom to begin a family - as MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch grows. 

Thoughts, questions, suggestions, ideas?

Fond regards, Scott

abidance 
pairbondage 
in John Money PhD 

Eastern cottonhead rabbit: Building on John Money’s exigencies in his section on “Concepts of Determinism” to inform a new kind of theory for talk psychotherapy and study of this clinically, What could such developments add to current outcomes, and especially in terms of diagnoses, as well as in terms of happiness-generation? {e.g engage music, engage loving bliss neurophysiology eliciting, engage Csikszentmihalyi's "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience," Engage A&V's Yoga, plus, ... as well as strategy vis-a-vis these exigencies to do so ?}, Develop this in the psychiatry department of Friends' Hospital in Philadelphia (in the context of medicine, psychiatry and Quakers)?, Here's Michael First, the author of the DSM V, in VIDEO talking about its recent publication - DSM-5 Handbook of Differential Diagnosis: Meet the Author, "Psychiatry," "Psychology," "Psychotherapy," as well as the "Hospital" wiki subjects at WUaS



PS

Chamomile (RU - National flower of Russia): Happy New Year 2023 Seasons Greetings Holiday Salutations Merry Christmas letter ~ 




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1 Lacan psychoanalysis theoretically compared w/ Freud - 


Okay Bard, what is Freudian psychoanalysis in terms of the four to five year therapeutic process theoretically compared with Lacanian psychoanalysis in terms of the weekly Psychotherapy meetings therapeutic process theoretically?



Freudian Psychoanalysis: A 4-5 Year Journey

Freudian psychoanalysis typically spans 4-5 years, emphasizing childhood experiences and unconscious drives as the foundation of personality and behavior. The process unfolds in stages:

  1. Initial Exploration: Patient freely associates, revealing thoughts, dreams, and memories. The analyst analyzes these for clues about unconscious conflicts and defense mechanisms.

  2. Transference: Patient unconsciously projects feelings and behaviors towards the analyst as if they were someone from their past (usually related to parental figures). This dynamic becomes a crucial tool for analyzing unresolved conflicts.

  3. Working Through: Through interpretation and reflection, the patient confronts and understands repressed emotions and conflicts, gaining insight and awareness.

  4. Resolution: By resolving internal conflicts and developing stronger coping mechanisms, the patient achieves greater emotional well-being and adaptability.

The length of this process depends on the individual's needs and the complexity of their issues.

Lacanian Psychoanalysis: Weekly Encounters with Desire

Lacanian psychoanalysis takes a different approach, focusing on language, desire, and the symbolic order. Therapy sessions are typically weekly, and shorter than Freudian analysis. Key aspects include:

  1. Dialogue and Precision: Emphasis on precise language and analysis of the patient's discourse, as the unconscious manifests through linguistic slips and patterns.

  2. Mirror Stage and Desire: Focus on the "mirror stage," where the ego forms through identifying with an ideal image. Desire is seen as an insatiable longing for this lost wholeness, driving our actions and choices.

  3. The Real, the Imaginary, and the Symbolic: Lacan theorizes three realms: the Real (unrepresentable, traumatic), the Imaginary (realm of images and self-perception), and the Symbolic (language and social order). Therapy aims to navigate these realms and understand how they shape our subjectivity.

  4. Beyond Cure: Lacanian analysis doesn't necessarily seek a "cure" but rather aims for an "analysis of the analyst." This involves dismantling illusions about the self and accepting the inherent lack of closure in desire.

Key Differences:

  • Duration: Freudian analysis is longer-term, while Lacanian is short-term and focused on specific issues.

  • Therapeutic Focus: Freudian analysis focuses on childhood experiences and resolving internal conflicts. Lacanian analysis focuses on language, desire, and the symbolic order.

  • Transference: Freudian analysis heavily utilizes transference as a tool for exploration. Lacanian analysis uses it, but with less emphasis compared to other mechanisms.

  • Goal: Freudian analysis aims for "resolution" and symptom reduction. Lacanian analysis aims for self-awareness and acceptance of the inherent lack of closure in desire.

Remember: Each approach has its merits and limitations. The best fit depends on the individual's needs and preferences.

I hope this comparison helps! If you have further questions about either approach, feel free to ask.




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What is Freudian psychoanalysis in terms of the four to five year therapeutic process theoretically compared with Lacanian psychoanalysis in terms of the weekly psychotherapy meetings' therapeutic process theoretically ?



Freudian Psychoanalysis vs. Lacanian Psychoanalysis: Therapeutic Process

Both Freudian and Lacanian psychoanalysis aim to uncover and resolve unconscious conflicts affecting mental health. However, their approaches to the therapeutic process, particularly in terms of duration and theoretical underpinnings, differ significantly.

Freudian Psychoanalysis:

  • Duration: Traditional Freudian analysis can last several years, even up to a decade, as it focuses on uncovering deeply repressed childhood traumas and conflicts through techniques like free association, dream analysis, and transference.

  • Therapeutic process: It follows a developmental model, moving through the three stages of psychosexual development (oral, anal, phallic) to understand the formation of the id, ego, and superego. The therapist seeks to bring unconscious material to conscious awareness through interpretation, helping the patient gain insight and resolve conflicts.

  • Emphasis: Unconscious drives, particularly sexual instinct (libido), and defense mechanisms like repression play a central role in understanding neurosis.

Lacanian Psychoanalysis:

  • Duration: Lacanian analysis is typically shorter, often lasting months or a few years, as it focuses on the symbolic realm of language and desire.

  • Therapeutic process: It emphasizes the Symbolic Order and the role of language in shaping subjectivity. The therapist acts as a mirror, prompting the analysand to question their assumptions and desires through interventions like confrontation and pun.

  • Emphasis: The Real, the Imaginary, and the Symbolic are key concepts in understanding the subject's relationship to language and desire. The focus is on deconstructing the imaginary structures that mask the Real and enable the analysand to reach a more authentic state of being.

Key Differences:

  • Length: Freudian analysis is much longer than Lacanian.

  • Focus: Freudian analysis focuses on unconscious drives and the Oedipus complex, while Lacanian analysis focuses on the Symbolic Order and the Real.

  • Techniques: Freudian analysis uses free association and dream analysis, while Lacanian analysis uses confrontation and pun.

  • Therapeutic goal: Freudian analysis aims to resolve neurosis by bringing unconscious conflicts to consciousness. Lacanian analysis aims to deconstruct the imaginary structures that mask the Real and allow the analysand to reach a more authentic state of being.

It's important to note that both Freudian and Lacanian psychoanalysis are complex and nuanced theoretical frameworks. This summary provides a brief overview of their contrasting approaches to the therapeutic process. Ultimately, the choice of a particular approach depends on the specific needs and goals of the patient and the therapist's expertise.

Do you have any further questions about either approach or any particular aspects you'd like me to elaborate on? I'm happy to delve deeper!




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What is the unconscious for Freud and what is the unconscious for Lacan? 



Both Freud and Lacan explored the concept of the unconscious, but their interpretations held significant differences:

Freud's Unconscious:

  • Storage Bin: Freud saw the unconscious as a "mental garbage can" where unwanted thoughts, desires, and memories were repressed due to their anxiety-provoking nature. These repressed elements continued to exert influence on our emotions and behavior without our conscious awareness.

  • Drives and Conflicts: According to Freud, the unconscious was primarily driven by instincts, particularly the libido (sexual energy). Conflicts between the id (unconscious drives), ego (reality principle), and superego (moral conscience) played out in the unconscious, forming the basis of neuroses.

  • Structure and Content: Freud distinguished between unconscious processes (dynamic operations like repression and condensation) and unconscious content (the repressed memories and desires). He further theorized the Oedipus complex as a central unconscious conflict arising from rivalry with the same-sex parent for the opposite-sex parent's affection.

Lacan's Unconscious:

  • Structured by Language: For Lacan, the unconscious wasn't simply a repository of repressed desires but a realm structured by language itself. He argued that we enter the Symbolic Order, the realm of language and social rules, at birth, shaping our desires and experiences in ways we're not fully aware of.

  • The Real: Beyond the Symbolic lies the Real, the unknowable and traumatic dimension of experience that language can't fully capture. The unconscious manifests through symptoms and slips of the tongue – attempts to express the Real within the limitations of language.

  • Desire and Lack: Lacan emphasized the concept of lack as central to the unconscious. We inherently desire something we can never fully possess, and this lack drives our unconscious actions and behaviors.

In summary:

  • Freud: Unconscious as a storehouse of repressed content driven by instincts and shaped by early childhood conflicts.

  • Lacan: Unconscious as a realm structured by language and defined by desire and lack, revealing glimpses of the unknowable Real.

These are just brief outlines, and both Freud and Lacan's theories delve much deeper into the complexities of the unconscious mind. If you'd like to explore their ideas further, I'd be happy to discuss specific aspects or answer any further questions you might have!




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Good evening, Ma! Here are some out of the box explorations - 'Great "Guidelines for practicing a musical instrument"

By #WyntonMarsalis & #YoYoMa http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingMusicalInstrument.htm but am exploring too "Guidelines for practicing #LovingBliss vis-à-vis practicing a musical instrument" - http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingLovingBlissvavMusicalInstrument.htm https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Loving_Bliss_(eliciting_this_neurophysiology) @WorldUnivAndSch ~' ... https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1742756538245136454 What do you think? Love, Scott




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Hi Ma! ... Thanks for your email the other day ... they say "The best defense is a good offense" ... and could this mean language or speaking ... as in the Desiderata "Speak your truth clearly and quietly" ... and central to Freud's thinking is "Ich defense" or similar ... and Lacan's tripartite registers' schema - the mirror, the symbolic and the real - with speaking as central and re the symbolic seems to be a new development in psychoanalytic social theory ... and John Money PhD's inhibitory coping strategy ... along with the adhibitory (have to or engage) one, and the explicatory one (from latin for unfold) ... to explain ... is another expression of defense thinking ... and just sent this to John, Ed and Pin - "and in scheduling a first appt with Wes Sowers MD, he and I might be able to navigate upmc univ pitt med ctr organizational restructuring to protect people for example ... and with MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch MD psychiatry as well - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Psychiatry ... Meeting with Wes could help a lot with my own 'defenses' (re networking and language use) both in PA and CA ahead" ...but realize it might take a week or two ..." re further theorizing or thinking ... What do you think? What are you up to today? How are you doing? Google Bard AI on laptop for voice ... could be another avenue to explore such implications of speaking in a therapeutic context ... (whereas I can't speak into my Android OS smartphone in another language yet for example) ... Thoughts, questions, ideas, suggestions? Love, Scott (https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/social%20theory)



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Ma, Am looking through my yoga notations - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html - re speaking, talking, (chanting, singing too) ... and check these out by searching on these words ... they're there ... thanks Lacanian George Alexander MD for the speaking and language use ideas! ... Appreciating Yoga's focus on centering meditation too, Ma! ... Am curious re Unitarian Universalist networks and communities where the speaking idea in some of these senses plays out ... and it does in people sharing with each other ... and re social justice questions too (and among Quaker Friends ... with its greater meditation focus 🙂 neurophysiology-wise") ... re social justice both re ethics too ... but where Yoga ethics are different - eg nonharming in Yoga is pretty central, and the Peace Testimony among Friends is also pretty central -  and come from a different place ... Love, abolition-ally, your son (seeking a wonderful, and ethical, life partner), Scott (What do you think? - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html ... re communicating and sharing about our realities too)  





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Happy New Year 2024, John, Ed & Pin! (continuing)


John, Ed, Pin, Ma, Alden, Peter, Wes Sowers MD, All, 


Continuing on from https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2024/01/giant-potato-lilac-star-flower-ipomoea.html (which I just shared with emails from this thread and more) ... 

"Ycleptance . . . " (an old English word meaning to name, call, or style, or typecast - http://scottmacleod.com/JohnMoneyConceptsOfDeterminism.html) per John Money PhD, and here in these Yoga Notations esp. - 

is another form of language use, or speaking, in my interpretation 


And as I was reading through the Lacan psychoanalytic characterizations of the real - 

a
The Real: Beyond the Symbolic lies the Real, the unknowable and traumatic dimension of experience that language can't fully capture.

b
"Lacan theorizes three realms: the Real (unrepresentable, traumatic),"

... was reminded of Pittsburgh Lacanian psychiatrist George Alexander MD's characterization of the Real for Lacan with the example of the table (eg in my interpretation, where people eat, where the MacLeods and the Alexanders MDs shared an Xmas meal, where people could negotiate (in a French sense too), and could even have sex, for example ... & re desire questions)
 ... BUT WHICH COULD very easily be a reference by family friend George to my father's rage at the dinner table in the middle 1970s after we had moved to Pittsburgh in 1974 into 319 Juniata Court .. 15208 (as I was just a teen and my brother was becoming a teenager)

Wes, greetings! I haven't heard back from you yet ... might it be possible please to meet with you to talk, and possibly for about 10 meetings - and soonish? In what ways moght we invent a new kind of talk therapy in meeting and regarding - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2024/01/giant-potato-lilac-star-flower-ipomoea.html - and even with machine learning like Google Bard AI as part of the conversation? 

Thanks, abolitionally, best regards, Scott







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