Sumac: "Calling All Poets" continued, Could machine translation could somehow even improve on Basho's Japanese haiku - which generate wonderful wonder in me - into English, differently from Scots' Gaelic from Shona, etc?, In what ways does the poetry wonder zone differ from the music wonder zone?, Could one even eventually begin to study this brain chemistry, say with brain wave headsets in the Harbin Hot Springs' warm pool, to begin ... and then listening to music there, and reading haiku there?, Visit the Harbin gate here ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg ~ in Google Street View and "walk" down the road 4 miles to Middletown, and amble around on the streets there (but it isn't possible to enter virtual Harbin fully yet), Lilium ledebourii: How are you all doing in the poetry "wonder-zone," Susana and Tim?, Old-growth forest: Calling All Poets, Ekphrasis, Allman Bros or the Grateful Dead (which musics can get me into a kind of wonder-zone, as can Basho's haiku), "Naked Harbin Ethnography" and "Haiku~ish" books

Hi Susana and Tim,

In terms of art creating kinds of wonder-zones in our bodyminds, is there a way, I wonder, that machine translation could somehow even improve on Basho's Japanese haiku - which generate wonderful wonder in me - into English, differently from Scots' Gaelic from Shona, etc?

And in what ways does the poetry wonder zone differ from the music wonder zone (and I think Tim and I share some common understandings of this neurophysiology from past somehow wondrous experiences together).

Some theorizing of, or thinking about, wonder and poetry and music here ...

And could one even eventually begin to study this brain chemistry, say with brain wave headsets in the Harbin Hot Springs' warm pool, to begin ... and then listening to music there, and reading haiku there?

Visit the Harbin gate here ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg ~ in Google Street View and "walk" down the road 4 miles to Middletown, and amble around on the streets there (but it isn't possible to enter virtual Harbin fully yet). :) {Here's the Dead playing a pretty good version of "Grateful Dead - Going Down The Road Feeling Bad - 10/31/80 - Radio City Music Hall (OFFICIAL)" ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSRs2DRkYgM} Harbin Gate is accessible here too https://twitter.com/HarbinBook.

Just some musings.

Cheers,
Scott
~ http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html
~ http://www.scottmacleod.com/HaikuishPoetryBook.html

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Grateful Dead - Going Down The Road Feeling Bad - 10/31/80 - Radio City Music Hall (OFFICIAL)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSRs2DRkYgM

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Lilium ledebourii: How are you all doing in the poetry "wonder-zone," Susana and Tim?, You'll find a pic of Watsu per Harbin here ~ http://scottmacleod.com/poetry.htm ~ and re a different kind of wonder-zone ... :), Wonderzone, Wonder-zone, wonder zone, Thank you for this "Calling All Poets" introduction and communication generation, Tim, For me, wonder-zone can be akin to loving bliss neurophysiology where this brain chemistry is measurable and will become elicit-able in new ways with knowing how it works

https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/01/lilium-ledebourii-how-are-you-all-doing.html

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Old-growth forest: Calling All Poets, Ekphrasis, Allman Bros or the Grateful Dead (which musics can get me into a kind of wonder-zone, as can Basho's haiku), Continue to explore how to create a virtual Harbin experience in a realistic virtual world (aspects of poetry here), Poetry wiki subject at WUaS planned in all ~200 countries' languages, and indeed in all 7,099 living languages ~

https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/01/old-growth-forest-calling-all-poets.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumac

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Old-growth forest: Calling All Poets, Ekphrasis, Allman Bros or the Grateful Dead (which musics can get me into a kind of wonder-zone, as can Basho's haiku), Continue to explore how to create a virtual Harbin experience in a realistic virtual world (aspects of poetry here), Poetry wiki subject at WUaS planned in all ~200 countries' languages, and indeed in all 7,099 living languages ~

Hi Tim and Susan!

Thanks so much, and very nice to meet you on New Year's Eve, Susan!

Here's my very recently published book of poetry ~

"Haiku~ish
and Other Loving Hippy Harbin Poetry"

- https://www.amazon.com/Haiku-ish-Other-Loving-Harbin-Poetry/dp/0692049037/
( http://www.scottmacleod.com/HaikuishPoetryBook.html ).

Found this about your poetry -
https://mikemaggio.net/projects/springtime-in-winter-an-ekphrastic-study-in-art-poetry-and-music/

While there's also some of my poetry in my much larger book and actual-virtual ethnography

"Naked Harbin Ethnography:
Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin"

- http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html

... where Tim and I visited Harbin together in January 2012, :) ...

the ekphrasis - as a vivid, often dramatic, verbal description of a visual work of art, either real or imagined - of my poetry and poetic books will further emerge around the growth of

a realistic virtual
Harbin Hot Springs, which you can visit here ~ 

http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg 
and "WALK" down the road 4 miles to Middletown, California, 

(in one form) ~ even while heading back to actual Harbin, after some of its trees grow back. Tim, when are we going to head back to Harbin together?

What are you writing about these days, Susan?

Regards,
Scott

some other books / published writings here:
- amazon.com/author/scottmacleodworlduniversity


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Hi Susan, and Tim,

Great to hear from you as well, Susan! And thank you, Tim, for connecting us!

Sounds like you make writing poetry a very social process. Is a modern haiku something that diverges stylistically from Basho's for example - http://oaks.nvg.org/basho.html (which I found by searching on Basho's most beautiful Haiku ... translation of Haiku being a different question)? I'd like to use my new "Haiku-ish" book to explore translation even (both machine translation for poetry in the @WUaSPress with time even, but also into German, which language I know, and have played with translation in as well). While there are 50 of Basho's Haiku here above, I just came across Basho's "The Narrow Road Through the Deep North" (1694) translated first in 1966 into
English, which also looks great ( https://wikitravel.org/en/Narrow_Road_to_the_Deep_North ).

And, creatively, I've never read Basho while listening, for example, to the Allman Bros or the Grateful Dead (which musics can get me into a kind of wonder-zone, as can Basho's haiku) ... to heighten a reading of Basho's haiku, let alone with Zen Buddhist music or other kinds of
music that move me a lot ... but doing something like this would be an interesting direction to head in. Tim and I may have touched on Zen 'non-thinking' at Reed in the early '80s a little.

In a kind of related vein, I've enjoyed re Basho and music, and a kind of poetry, do you know Robbie Basho's North American Raga -

Robbie Basho - A North American Raga (The Plumstar)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ezp0WMTAzc - which is cool in these regards, and even a little re a kind of poetry in this, and also playing in innovative ways with Indian raga and American '60s acoustic guitar.

While Harbin is still closed due to a devastating fire in Sept 2015 which razed it, I continue to explore how to create a virtual Harbin experience in a realistic virtual world (aspects of poetry here). And in a parallel way, seems like I can hear better Grateful Dead experiences on Youtube these days, cherry-picking even their 1965-1979ish music (which I enjoy more than their 1980-1995 music) ...

Grateful Dead - Dark Star_China Cat Sunflower_The Eleven_Feedback 1-17-68

https://youtu.be/i5xvp4dofk8


... or better Allman Bros music in video (especially since Duane Allman died around 1971) ... than I can with either of their many offshoots live or online, except that Derek Trucks with Greg Allman et al manage to get "there" in the contemporary - to a kind of wonderzone - here and related in 2009 ...

The Allman Brothers Band - HD (40th Anniversary - Full Concert)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-7YnSgv1A

 ... which recalls newly and creatively the Allman Brothers' soaring musically in the late 1960s ...

Your travels to the Napa Valley sound fun ... writing group-wise eventually too? :)

Nice to be in touch. Tim are you heading to making newly a kind of "poetry" in music with time?

Cheers,
Scott

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Poetry wiki subject at WUaS planned in all ~200 countries' languages, and indeed in all 7,099 living languages ~
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Poetry

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old-growth_forest

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Prickly Lettuce: Berkeley Faculty Club, Language of Travel and Trips, Loving Bliss

Berkeley Faculty Club ...

with a senior Berkeley anthropologist and a scholar/professor from Japan ...

Talking about Japan, Basho, Zen, bliss and many other tourism studies' topics ...


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is the language of tourism studies helpful for thinking about pscyhedelic trips?


How might we think of LSD, using the language of tripping, as a touristic experience.

And similarly, how might we think of MDMA-ecstasy as a religious experience, in the context of the academic discourse of religious studies?


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to Harbin ...










(http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2010/01/prickly-lettuce-berkeley-faculty-club.html - January 26, 2010)

Blackberries: Harbin Haiku-ish

Harbin Haiku-ish


Watsu in the heart pool
Two people water dance
Fluent ease together




Mind flowers stream
Through you, be-easing
Us deeply into warm waters

Sun on the hill trees
Above the pools
One bougainvillea crimson alit




Stylus on parchment
Love-symbols emerge
Warm pools' emergent ideas

the future of harbin
ten generations ahead ~
water, warmth, love




Harbin neurophysiology sings ~
what would extend these chemical
flows of mind-freedom?




hot pool, cold plunge
light through a leaf ~ fig:
green light smile




After the cold plunge, look up
through the woods 'round the pools
complexity, depth and light




deep sleep night
rad tent skylights
rested bodymind merges in pools




Wailing to the Harbin pools
Along the mountain path
Snow in the green canopy




Snow covers the pools' ridge line
Steam rises from the heart pool
Pool's warmth lingers in my body




walk over quiet water bridge
green springing up
here harbin hail now

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(http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2008/07/harbin-haiku-ish.html - July 17, 2008)