Thank-you for this article, Scott. I enjoy hearing Angela and victor express their ideas {... http://wildyogi.info/en/issue/maxim-yasochka-olga-sydorenko-yoga-inner-wisdom-angela-farmer-viktor-van-kooten ...}. I do agree with most of them. I would love to see them again. May be Harbin in 2018.

Garden and goats keeping me very busy—very satisfying work. It’s like, before enlightenment carry wood and heal water, after enlightenment carry wood and haul water.

Angela Farmer and Viktor Van Kooten: Yoga of Inner Wisdom

Interview in Yellow Springs, November 2009

Maxim Yasochka, Olga Sydorenko

... http://wildyogi.info/en/issue/maxim-yasochka-olga-sydorenko-yoga-inner-wisdom-angela-farmer-viktor-van-kooten ...

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Thanks, Lyn, for your email. Suzuki method, I'd think too ... ! :) ...

{Thought "Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water ..." might come from Shunryū Suzuki's "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" ~ http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/zenmind.pdf or have been translated by D.T. Suzuki ... but not sure where it comes from, but check it out here ... https://lifehacker.com/four-confusing-zen-quotes-and-what-you-can-learn-from-1676177538 ... }

Re the Suzuki method for learning a musical instrument, such as the violin or the piano, here, too, are

Guidelines for practicing a musical instrument
... from Winton Marsalis and Yo-yo Ma ~
http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingMusicalInstrument.htm

And riffing on the above, here are ...
Guidelines for practicing loving bliss vis-à-vis practicing a musical instrument
http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingLovingBlissvavMusicalInstrument.htm ...

And, further, here are ...
Loving bliss and practices to elicit this
http://scottmacleod.com/LovingBlissPractices.htm ...

And, here, too ~ BEST LOVE ~ realizations of LOVE in some of its best senses ~
http://scottmacleod.com/daltonletter.htm#BestLove

Is eliciting loving bliss neurophysiology - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/loving%20bliss - a form of enlightenment? What's the method for eliciting this enlightenment (excluding X:) besides practicing contentment (a yoga idea too) ... and even re chopping water, practicing walls, carrying asana, and building stone woods ... :)

L, S

http://scottmacleod.com/yoga.htm

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There's a letter from Victor to me re his art 3 postings' ago ..

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/03/hello-dear-victor-and-angelaangelina.html

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I hope the wiki Yoga source here - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Yoga - will gather many interesting Angela and Victor sources with time ...

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And Angela and Victor have a kind of un-Yoga un-learning style ... an unique way ... quite well thought out ...

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Victor and Angela ~ ~
http://www.angela-victor.com/

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angela farmer and victor van kooten

by carolyn brown

Practice Yoga | Interviews

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teaching yoga in greece and beyond

https://www.yogitimes.com/article/angela-farmer-victor-van-kooten-yoga-teachers

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Interview with Angela Farmer and Victor Van Kooten

"The unique way"

Questions: Ilya Zhuravlev, Ksenia Rush
Interview: Ksenia Rush

http://wildyogi.info/en/issue/interview-angela-farmer-and-victor-van-kooten-unique-way

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Angela Farmer and Victor Van Kooten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlPrjb05JHU

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... and perhaps in conversation with or in reaction to the I-anger (Iyengar) method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyengar_Yoga) ...

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Suzuki method ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_method ...

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College of Piping method for learning the bagpipes and the classical GHB music called Piobaireachd ... see: