Kowhai (NC - National flower of New Caledonia): Book talk with Dr Hugh Thomas on your book "Power and Pleasure" OUP 2021(continuing) ~
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My apologies, Scott, for being slow to respond to your emails on my book talk—it’s been a hectic semester so I took a break from responding to emails over the holiday weekend. And thanks very much for listening to the book talk! In terms of your big questions, I have to admit to a fair amount of hesitation about fitting my work into the big theoretical frameworks of Marx and Foucault, for all of their importance in thinking about power. To the extent I fit into theoretical frameworks, I probably depended more on Pierre Bourdieu’s thinking about cultural capital. I’m afraid I’m not familiar enough with Castells’ organizational theory to discuss that intelligently, but in that arena I have been influenced a little by actor network theory. In terms of digital humanities, there is an old website out there that traces John’s itinerary, although unfortunately they clearly ran out of money. There are certainly lots of possibilities with GIS for all this, but I’m afraid I lack the computational expertise to take advantage of them.
Best,
Hugh
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Dear Hugh,
greetings on a Sunday evening. How are you and how was your weekend?
I'm following up further today on this email thread here - https://scott-macleod.
blogspot.com/2023/11/ rhododendron-np-national- flower-of-nepal.html - and regarding, brainstorming, a curiosity about the trenchant overarching social theory critiques of Marx, Foucault and Castells re society, and in particular power, - and see the resources I posted below in the PS too)
(and again the day after Thanksgiving in this blog post here - https://scott-macleod.
blogspot.com/2023/11/ welwitschia-na-national- flower-of.html )
Appreciating your mentioning power in your talk in these regards as well.
In a completely different vein - and now for something completely different :) -
and with interest in the history and ethnomusicology of folk rock music's history, here's an interesting primary source 'Steeleye Span' channel on Spotify (which Spotify is pretty good now, having improved as a music streaming channel, but which ads are still a bit too much, yet it's free otherwise ... and allows for a kind of 'cherry picking' of pleasurable music :) -
(And here too is Pentangle on iHeart radio ... Less historical, less out of the depths of English folk time, less interesting re historical analysis too ... but with some comparative potential :) ...
{And especially Pentangle's John Renbourn's Lady and the Unicorn (1970), and Sir John Alot (1968)
1968: Sir John Alot of Merrie Englandes Musyk Thyng and ye Grene Knyghte (Transatlantic)
1970: The Lady and the Unicorn (Transatlantic) }
And are you familiar with
"Mainly Norfolk"
for lyrics and history of tunes
and eg Spotted Cow
which Steeleye Span sings too
(See too :
Northumbria Folk as a resource -
Cheers,
Scott
Also in my daily blog iis this label -
And here are 2 related wiki subjects at MIT OCW-centric World University and School -
PS
Here are some cursory inquiry beginnings to
Marx Foucault and Castells' social theory compared, and similar -
THE “HOW” AND “WHY” OF POWER: FROM MARX TO FOUCAULT TO POWER TODAY
Power Today
By way of concluding, I want to acknowledge a third approach to power that borrows from and builds on Marx and Foucault, and which develops an analysis of power today. In Communication Power (2009), Manuel Castells develops an alternative theory of power that focuses on the ways in which power moves through multi-media communication networks which are, for him, the dominant guarantors of culture and meaning in our lives. As Castells explains, “…all networks of power exercise their power by influencing the human mind predominantly (but not solely) through multimedia networks of mass communication. Thus, communication networks are the fundamental networks of power making in society” (Castells, 2011, p. 774).
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Are marx foucault and castells the most significant theorists in radical social theory?
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Were marxist & foucauldian theories trenchant critiques of society?
What is Marxist criticism of society?
Marxist criticism focuses on class struggle, especially on the oppression of the proletariat (the have-nots) by the bourgeoisie (the haves). As part of its analysis of class struggle, it emphasizes the alienation inherent in the modes of production and exchange inherent in capitalist society.Dec 5, 2021
What are the main criticisms of Foucault?
Abstract: A common criticism of Michel Foucault's works is that his writings on power relations over-emphasized the effects that technologies of power have upon the subjection of humans, rendering any attempt of resistance futile and reducing the subject to a mere passive effect of power.
What are the criticisms of Marxian theory?
Marxian economics have been criticized for a number of reasons. Some critics point to the Marxian analysis of capitalism while others argue that the economic system proposed by Marxism is unworkable. There are also doubts that the rate of profit in capitalism would tend to fall as Marx predicted.
What are the differences between Foucault and Marx?
However, the key difference is that Foucauldian power constitutes all relationships, whereas Marxian power is expressed by productive relations. As such, class domination is not a necessary condition of Foucauldian power.Jan 24, 2017
What is Marxism's view about society?
Marx argues that there are inequalities in society based on social class differences. Marx claims that to improve society and make it fairer there needs to be large-scale change. Marxism is criticised for ignoring other important factors such as gender and ethnicity, focusing too much on social class.
Is Foucault anti Marxist?
All in all, it seems that Foucauldian anti-Marxism is beyond question. In fact, as we will see in the first section, Foucault openly criticised the Marxist tradition on several occasions and with powerful arguments.
Why is Foucault problematic?
Foucault theorizes about the nature (or definition) of truth, it is true, but nowhere does he attempt to install or legitimate universal criteria or evidentiary grounds of truth ranging over diverse historical epistemes.
Or
Why is Foucault not a Marxist?
Foucault was associated with Marxism and Communism but rejected them both because of problems he attributed to what seemed like abuses of power and not necessarily the ideology. He seemed to have associated similar discrepancies with monarchies.Dec 31, 2020
How is Marxism useful in society?
It laid down the theory of class struggle and revolution. Marxism deals with the theory and practice of socialism. It propagates the establishment of a classless society. The means of production, distribution and exchange should be owned by the community as a whole as against private ownership.
Or
What are the 5 principles of Marxism?
The basic tenets of Marxism are the following: dialectical materialism, historical materialism, the theory of surplus value, class struggle, revolution, dictatorship of the proletariat and communism
How did Karl Marx's ideas impact society?
Marx's work laid the foundations for future communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin. Operating from the premise that capitalism contained the seeds of its own destruction, his ideas formed the basis of Marxism and served as a theoretical base for communism.
What makes Foucault's theory different?
A key point about Foucault's approach to power is that it transcends politics and sees power as an everyday, socialised and embodied phenomenon. This is why state-centric power struggles, including revolutions, do not always lead to change in the social order.
Who disagrees with Foucault?
The Foucault–Habermas debate is a dispute concerning whether Michel Foucault's ideas of "power analytics" and "genealogy" or Jürgen Habermas' ideas of "communicative rationality" and "discourse ethics" provide a better critique of the nature of power in society.
How does Marx fit in with Foucault?
As a result, Foucault's work indirectly abets certain reactionary viewpoints, while Marx's does not. Perhaps the most obvious points of overlap between Marx and Foucault are their shared interest in human history and criticism of all simplistic forms of individualism. Aug 29, 2019
What is Foucault's critique of modernity?
Foucault draws upon an anti-Enlightenment tradition that rejects the equation of reason, emancipation, and progress, arguing that an interface between modern forms of power and knowledge has served to create new forms of domination.
How did Foucault view society?
In "Discipline and Punish", Foucault argues that modern society is a “disciplinary society,” meaning that power in our time is largely exercised through disciplinary means in a variety of institutions (prisons, schools, hospitals, militaries, etc.).
What is Foucault's approach to Archaeology of knowledge to understand society?
The Archaeology of Knowledge (L'archéologie du savoir, 1969) by Michel Foucault is a treatise about the methodology and historiography of the systems of thought (epistemes) and of knowledge (discursive formations) which follow rules that operate beneath the consciousness of the subject individuals, and which define a ...
What is Foucault's critique?
For Foucault, critique is “a means for a future or a truth that it will not know nor happen to be, it oversees a domain it would not want to police and is unable to regulate.” So critique will be. that perspective on established and ordering ways of knowing which is not immediately.
What does Foucault say about society?
We are in the society of the teacher-judge, the doctor-judge, the educator-judge, the 'social-worker'-judge; it is on them that the universal reign of the normative is based; and each individual, wherever he may find himself, subjects to it his body, his gestures, his behaviour, his aptitudes, his achievements" ( ...
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:53 PM Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@
worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote: Hugh,
Some further thinking, and appreciation for your book talk -
I appreciate, too, the moral and ethical sensibilities that emerge from you in your presentation ... but wonder about the implications of history very broadly in recapitulating and interpreting criminal behavior for example ...
But I also appreciate what could even an "ideological" 'move' to return in your presentation to the 'magna carta' as a seminal text of 'law" ... and regarding even addressing questions of slavery, and possibly 'race, class, gender" contemporary social science foci ... and re even the words' "king john" and ideological implications of his possibly 'atrocity reign' ... as model tragically ... Oxford University Press out-of-America thinking-wise too ...
Scott
PS
Brainstorming-wise, have you done or seen any highest quality analyses, for example, of the folk rock music of Steeleye Span ballads et al., (e.g. Pentangle too - both from the late 1960s and early 1970s) as a kind of history?
ethics' label -
Law -
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:15 PM Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@
worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote: Hi Hugh,
Thanks again for your informative and interesting and great book talk - https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=4APZI54_lHs
As I think further about your presentation, and particularly a #
RealisticVirtualEarthForHistor y, there do seem to be some opportunities to explore this with a kind of Humanities' oriented Google Street View with a time slider, history-wiki-virtual-world- graphy approach ... How to research the following -
1
research the 13 miles a day claim for the movement of the court of king john for example ... with ethno-wiki-virtual-world-
graphy ... in a # RealisticVirtualEarthForHistor y (think Google Street View with time slider, #TextInTheSidebar #Google Maps with Google Translate (of medieval English, medieval French, Medieval Latin etc)... simply by dragging and dropping the text from the scholar who makes these claims into #GDocs #TextInTheSidebar of Google Street View with time slider - 1199-1216 ... Not set up yet IT-wise to do this in a moment ... but stay tuned ...
Also,
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social theories '(not Marxist, not Foucauldian, but as trenchant) critiques of the medieval monarchy and court of King John, for example?) came to mind early this morning too ... And I may be able to address these questions from a Castellian perspective, and regarding creating an emerging realistic virtual earth for history in 1 realistic virtual earth ... in my upcoming 6th book "Society, Information Technology and the Global University"
Scott
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:17 PM Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@
worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote: Dear Hugh,
Greetings! I enjoyed your book talk re 'Dr Hugh Thomas on your book "Power and Pleasure" ' OUP 2021, which I found and watched on Youtube on Thanksgiving yesterday.
How are you doing? I thought too to call you to say hi on Thanksgiving, but may do so over the next few days instead.
Appreciating the sources' approaches you shared, and the ' social theory' and historiographical approaches to this ancient subject:
Book Talk with Dr. Hugh Thomas: Power and Pleasure, Court Life Under King John, 1199-1216
I added these references to the History wiki school at MIT OCW-centric World Univ & Sch - https://wiki.
worlduniversityandschool.org/ wiki/History to these sections (and updated the Navigation a bit too, and by hand ... did I get these citations correct, more or less, for now?)
Select Books -
Thomas, Hugh M. 2021. Power and Pleasure Court Life under King John, 1199-1216. Oxford, England, Oxford University Press.
Select Video and Audio -
Thomas, Hugh M. 2021. [https://youtu.be/4APZI54_lHs
Book Talk with Dr. Hugh Thomas: Power and Pleasure, Court Life Under King John, 1199-1216]. Miami, FL: University of Miami Humanities.
I can't see from your talk how a realistic virtual earth for history (thinking Google Street View with a time slider) would be a helpful research tool, but perhaps your book itself would offer new avenues and resources, like images to build this from.
I looked up your "Power and Pleasure" in World Catalog (https://search.worldcat.org/ - in which library locations for my "Naked Harbin Ethnography" can be found for physical copies) to see where I might find your book in Pittsburgh, and it looks like it's available at Carlow College and Robert Morris College and Westminster College.
I thought to ask some questions during the talk about the way the Magna Carta fits further into your King John narratives (and possibly about Edward I too ... but may wait until we speak or see each other).
All the best, thanks, talk with you soon potentially,
Scott
Have blogged a bit about this today as well -
PS
I created a set of Tweets about your talk -
Thanks, #DrHughMThomas Appreciating the sources, #SocialTheory & historiographical approaches in "Book Talk with Dr. Hugh Thomas: 'Power and Pleasure', Court Life Under King John, 1199-1216" https://youtu.be/4APZI54_lHs Added > https://wiki.
worlduniversityandschool. org/wiki/History!
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Have you used or can you see using WikiTree for your medieval historical research Hugh ? -
Here are some of my Wikitree genealogy platform explorations into ancestors, and for example, search on:
Guernsey lily - Wednesday, September 27, 2023
"Found with Wikitree that the Elaine (Chadbourne) Bacon c1994 book's reference may be wrong - http://scott-macleod.
blogspot.com/search/label/ SGKMacLeod%20family%20history? m=0 ... but that your and my ancestors may go back to one or some signers of the Magna Carta, just not Edward I Longshanks, king of England ... Hmm ... https://www.wikitree.com/ wiki/Brown-92989 ... https:// www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacLeod- 2524 ... Love, abolition-ally, , Scott"
Rosy posy - Sunday, November 15, 2020
"I just wiki-added a few more ancestors in WikiTree genealogy software to make it possible to go from moi to Major General Benjamin Lincoln ( who is supposed to have accepted the sword of surrender from the British and fought also in a battle called Shay's Rebellion near the Springfield armory in MA in 1786-87) in my Chadbourne line - "
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Resources -
Power and Pleasure
Court Life under King John, 1199-1216
Hugh M. Thomas
2021
Oxford University Press
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Notes -
History of medieval courts (like King John's)
Norbert Elias on courts
mention of Anthropology
around 9 minutes
Soft power
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added this to Youtube under your video -
Great talk, Professor Hugh Thomas! Thanks so much for sharing it. Best wishes, Scott GK MacLeod (will add it as a resource to the MIT OCW-centric wiki History subject or school - https://wiki.
worlduniversityandschool.org/ wiki/History)!
Thanks, Hugh ... looking forward to talking, and Happy Thanksgiving ! -
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Just searched on and found -
Jul 16, 2017 — So, to answer your question, yes, you can travel down the Ohio River to the Mississippi River from Pittsburgh to New Orleans. It's just going to
There are some private companies who offer steamboat cruises up and down the Mississippi and Ohio rivers. For instance, in 2018 Mississippi River Cruises will take you from Pittsburgh to Louisville (7/15 to 7/23), Louisville to St. Louis, (7/22-/30). There, you can wait until 9/23 to catch the next route from St. Louis to Memphis (9/23–10/1) and finally go from Memphis to New Orleans (10/7–10/15).
So, to answer your question, yes, you can travel down the Ohio River to the Mississippi River from Pittsburgh to New Orleans. It’s just going to take you awhile.
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Thursday, November 30, 2023
My apologies, Scott, for being slow to respond to your emails on my book talk—it’s been a hectic semester so I took a break from responding to emails over the holiday weekend. And thanks very much for listening to the book talk! In terms of your big questions, I have to admit to a fair amount of hesitation about fitting my work into the big theoretical frameworks of Marx and Foucault, for all of their importance in thinking about power. To the extent I fit into theoretical frameworks, I probably depended more on Pierre Bourdieu’s thinking about cultural capital. I’m afraid I’m not familiar enough with Castells’ organizational theory to discuss that intelligently, but in that arena I have been influenced a little by actor network theory. In terms of digital humanities, there is an old website out there that traces John’s itinerary, although unfortunately they clearly ran out of money. There are certainly lots of possibilities with GIS for all this, but I’m afraid I lack the computational expertise to take advantage of them.
Best,
Hugh
From: Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@
worlduniversityandschool.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 8:35 PM
To: Thomas, Hugh M <h.thomas@miami.edu>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Book talk with Dr Hugh Thomas on your book "Power and Pleasure" OUP 2021
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Dear Hugh,
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Tuesday, November 28, 2023
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