Sunday, February 26, 2017

Biological organisation: Do you recall if Steeleye Span sang Boar's Head Carol as the opening band to Jethro Tull, Iif WUaS/friends had the realistic virtual earth up and running (in Google Streetview plus, with even just the ability to add video, beyond the photos you can add now - visit the Harbin Gate here https://twitter.com/HarbinBook to see the photo of the Harbin Gate I added fairly recently but from 2001), and this concert was filmed and public - like many many Grateful Dead concerts, we'd be able to check up on whether or not Steeleye Span sang this - and hear the Boar's Head Carol, Now how best to add both of these versions of this 1970 Stanford University "Protein synthesis: an epic on the cellular level" to a realistic virtual earth?, "More than 70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments," "1,500 scientists lift the lid on reproducibility Survey sheds light on the ‘crisis’ rocking research" - Nature.com, Let's code the realistic virtual earth for reproducibility of scientific experiments (in addition to at the atomic and cellular levels, and with mathematical formulas, and for evolutionary biological research), And could this Stanford Bio-X executive committee help with the realization of a STEM and medical realistic virtual earth for research https://biox.stanford.edu/person-group/executive-committee ?



Donald, 

Would your father or anyone else in your family (or do you) recall if Steeleye Span sang Boar's Head Carol as the opening band to Jethro Tull at the Finchley Odeon in London in 1970? :) Realizing this is a long shot q, and that if WUaS/friends had the realistic virtual earth up and running (in Google Streetview plus, with even just the ability to add video, beyond the photos you can add now - visit the Harbin Gate here https://twitter.com/HarbinBook to see the photo of the Harbin Gate I added fairly recently but from 2001), and this concert was filmed and public - like many many Grateful Dead concerts, we'd be able to check up on whether or not Steeleye Span sang this - and hear the Boar's Head Carol - but waiting patiently here in the light (re Quakers/f/Friends) for this day (and possibly will contribute to sharing developing such openings as a F/friendly leading ...) 

Just Google-searched on "Steeleye Span Jethro Tull at the Finchley Odeon in London in 1970" ... but the first hits that came up were a Wikipedia article for Jethro Tull and a Wikipedia article for Steeleye Span ... and this interestingly - http://www.marmalade-skies.co.uk/oct1970.htm - as well as this - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2014/04/planets-wow-you-heard-steeleye-span-and.html - with nada in the video search :)

Singing was fun this morning. And Quaker Meeting?

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Boar's Head Carol sung by Steeleye Span is lovely, I do declare ...
https://youtu.be/jVwr5B6VQZk ...

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Planets: Wow ... you heard Steeleye Span and Jethro Tull!, Great folk rock music from the 60s/70s, lucky these days to be able to be picky (e.g. with Pandora and Spotify) about what great music we can listen to by both those groups, Ode as poetry form, read Wordsmith and Keats since they are most likely to 'rock' for me?, How to bring a folk rock 'program' (computer programming metaphor) in contemporary Internetity (Information Age) parlance to Scottish Country Dance sheet music?, What's the "Hair: the Tribal Love Rock Musical" musical program?, Sheet music section here at the wiki Music School at WUaS, Friends, SFFM, WUaS as a kind of ministry even?, Heading for releasing meditation, Friend Edward Planetflight, Folk rock music and Programming wiki subjects at WUaS

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2014/04/planets-wow-you-heard-steeleye-span-and.html
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Now how best to add both of these versions of this 1970 Stanford University "Protein synthesis: an epic on the cellular level" to a realistic virtual earth?

Protein synthesis: an epic on the cellular level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9dhO0iCLww
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Version 2:
(Paul Berg) Protein Synthesis: An Epic on the Cellular Level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRmvnlNVw4
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NIH reference to ...

The Paul Berg Papers

Title:
Protein Synthesis: An Epic on the Cellular Level
https://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/ps/retrieve/ResourceMetadata/CDBBNY

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"More than 70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments"


https://twitter.com/GerdMoeBehrens/status/835507162487091200

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1,500 scientists lift the lid on reproducibility

Survey sheds light on the ‘crisis’ rocking research.

 Corrected:
http://www.nature.com/news/1-500-scientists-lift-the-lid-on-reproducibility-1.19970

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Let's code the realistic virtual earth for reproducibility of scientific experiments (in addition to at the atomic and cellular levels, and with mathematical formulas, and for evolutionary biological research).

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And could this Stanford Bio-X executive committee help with the realization of a STEM and medical realistic virtual earth for research https://biox.stanford.edu/person-group/executive-committee ?



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Saturday, February 25, 2017

Spider monkey: Way beyond Youtube, IN SITU VIRTUALLY - "in place" in a realistic virtual earth where and when the video was taken, Grateful Dead concerts and Stanford, virtual Harbin, Digital History beginning with news and historical footage and films turned into 3D interactive virtual world scenes then patched together, Glad too Tanya Bergamot will be WUaS's first student this autumn, Met her in SF Quaker Meeting (SFFM), Ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy will allow all of us to add our historical video, "little trip down memory lane," How best to wiki-add brain and gene research videos, photos and computer modeling in place with time slider in a realistic 3D virtual earth - for the benefits of group knowledge generation?


Thanks for your email, Donald,

I recall you telling me about you and all your family hearing Steeleye Span and Jethro Tull in the Finchley Odeon in London in 1970, but not of their deafening din. 

Curious how we'll all be able to add our videos to a wiki Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider and which is build-able and open like the 3D interactive virtual world of
OpenSimulator (but less so like Second Life, since it's proprietarily locked down as I see it) but realistic (so film realism turned into a realistic 3D interactive virtual world). ...
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/02/gyps-himalayensis-realistic-virtual.html
...

I've found that the Grateful Dead played at Stanford's Roscoe Pavilion in 1972 and played some shows there too annually from around 1981-1986, but haven't found anything in between ... IN SITU VIRTUALLY - in a realistic virtual earth where and when the video was taken, and that's fulsome with great historical interactive video 

... way beyond Youtube.


Mari, what years were you at Stanford? I enjoyed hearing a book talk in the Stanford Bookstore yesterday about Stanford students' letters - "Letters Home from Stanford" - by Alison Carpenter Davis (who reminded me a little of you), and who also went to Stanford in the 1970s I think - https://events.stanford.edu/events/659/65941. Her talk is a prospective model for me for giving a book talk there about my new "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book ... bit.ly/HarbinBook ... https://twitter.com/HarbinBook :) Giving another talk about it in the UC Berkeley anthropology department about it on May 5th.

Nice to share online Meeting with you yesterday, Mari.

Friendly cheer,
Scott


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[Hi Scott, just found this in my Outgoing Mail box (wrote it on Sunday — Moore’s law).]

Scott, I was there 1971-1976 with a year out in the middle. I never saw Steeleye Span there but saw them open for a Jethro Tull concert in the Finchley Odeon, N. London in 1970. They were ear-splittingly loud and I didn’t gain any affection for them until much later, and that’s surely nostalgia more than familiarity… I’ll take your little trip down memory lane though.

Cheers,
Donald



On Feb 18, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mari and Donald,

Thanks, Mari. Were you at Stanford from 70-ish to 1975, Donald, and were you at Stanford from 76-79ish, Mari? (I'm trying to remember the exact dates). Would either of you have seen these Steeleye Span concerts (in the blog and here below), or known the writers of the reviews? The reviews are interesting ...


Steeleye Span played Stanford in the 1970s at least twice!


Here are some concert reviews from the Stanford Daily:

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>> Steeleye Span: Folk and Rock Unite
>> 01.2.15&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
>> <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19730724-01.2.15&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN------->
>> The Stanford Daily, Volume 163A, Issue 9, 24 July 1973
>>  Issue PDF (10.63 MB)
>> <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=stanford19730724-01&getpdf=true>
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>> A quote from the following Stanford Daily review: ... (see blog post)
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>> Space-age Rock: Steeleye Span Mystifies
>> http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19761012-01.2.27&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
>> <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19761012-01.2.27&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN------->
>> The Stanford Daily, Volume 170, Issue 12, 12 October 1976
>>  Issue PDF (20.86 MB)
>> <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=stanford19761012-01&getpdf=true>
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>> There looks to be a few more articles about Steeleye Span at Stanford
>> mostly from the 1970s -
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>> http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=q&hs=1&r=1&results=1&txf=txIN&txq=Steeleye+Span&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
>> <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=q&hs=1&r=1&results=1&txf=txIN&txq=Steeleye+Span&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN------->
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>> http://stanforddailyarchive.com <http://stanforddailyarchive.com/>
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>> Friendly cheers, Scott
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Hi Donald and Mari, 

Attended the Stanford book event last night on my way to the Unitarian Universalist church of Palo Alto. Am choir-singing these days at UUCPA on Thursday evenings and Sunday mornings. While quite enjoyable to sing together, and am learning a lot too (and 're UU culture and musical energy +), am appreciating much about unprogramned Quaker Meeting too in comparison (UU services are very structured, not quite my Friendly Harbin warm pool cup of tea), which, thanks to Western Friend magazine and Mari, I attend online sometimes.

Glad too Tanya Bergamot will be WUaS's first student this autumn. I met her - the Sunday you weren't recently there Donald -  in SF Quaker Meeting (SFFM), and we then subsequently met at a hive meeting space at AFSC/SFFM to talk about her studying at WUaS. She already has an AA degree so in possibly transferring W UaS may be able to become fully accredited before 2021.

Boar's Head Carol sung by Steeleye Span is lovely, I do declare ...
https://youtu.be/jVwr5B6VQZk ...

Scott



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Thanks for sharing your riddly-ma-diddly Harbin histericalities with
the Greateful Dead sunshine-brewing in Fern in 1970s per some of these
- what emoticonalities be these - ? You know the Anth-d'Harbin, merci
purr ton-sharings:)


Harbin Founder Robert Hartley (AKA Ishvara)
http://onlinedigitaleditions.com/commonground/archive/web-11-2015/

Sunday, December 28, 2014


Harbin Hot Springs and the Heart Consciousness Church

http://califias.blogspot.com/2014/12/harbin-hot-springs-and-heart.html


Other related Harbin & Grateful Dead rememberings as I toot away looking for

Viola: 3 great recent articles about Harbin after the fire, "Harbin's Robert Hartley aka Ishvara," "The Fire at Harbin Hot Springs," "Everything Gone but the Water," Interesting observations about the Grateful Dead at Harbin in these articles, Interview too with the publisher, Rob Sidon, of Common Ground Magazine from 2011, Re a new Academic Press at WUaS and publishing my actual / virtual Harbin ethnography, here's a poetry book published through CreateSpace affiliated with Amazon. And the 2nd Twitter post has CreateSpace's choices for ISBN book numbers. To add the new Academic Press at WUaS, I'll probably use the Universal ISBN option. Furthermore, to anticipate publishing my and others' poetry, WUaS may create other parts of the WUaS Press, Distinguishing between becoming a Publisher and Imprints, Kindle conversion

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/01/viola-3-great-recent-articles-about.html


'Keep the quirk': rebuilding a famed New Age resort, clothing still optional:
Seven months after Harbin Hot Springs in California burned down, the community is wrestling with the blank slate on which to imagine a new home
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/30/harbin-hot-springs-resort-california-mountains

Harbin Hot Springs and the Ten Thousand Fragments of Brahma

http://hilltromper.com/article/harbin-hot-springs-and-ten-thousand-fragments-brahma


  article is real thing - and they were there

Monsieur Heartsong JagannathY -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagannath ?

>>>> *http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/02/wild-boar-carols-music-singing-boars.html*

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http://www.dead.net/tags/stanford

http://www.stanforddaily.com/tag/the-grateful-dead/

http://www.stanforddaily.com/tag/grateful-dead/

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2014/03/12/palo-alto-dead-houses-provide-an-off-campus-community-for-students/

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Searched on Harbin Hot Springs in the Stanford Daily Archive, and didn't find anything, but Stanford hot springs' trips have occurred for decades, some leaving from Tressider:

1959
IIR Announces Big Sur Weekend
The IJR is sponsoring a trip to Big Sur over Thanksgiving vacation open to all students. The group will leave Friday, Nov. 27, and return Sunday, Nov. 29. The weekend will include swimming in natural hotsprings and dancing. The group will go by private cars and stay at llipplewood Hesort in housekeeping cabins. Cost of gas. food and room is $10.00, payable to Mrs. Helen lless, at the "1" Center, bv Monday, Nov. 23.

http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19591117-01.2.14&srpos=22&e=-------en-20--21--txt-txIN-Hot+Springs------

1963
Napa Offers Wine Tasting
A tour of the Napa Valley, including a wine tasting stop, will take place this Saturday, with the bus leaving Tresidder at 8 a.m. Students are asked to meet at Tresidder at 7:45 a.m. The trip, which will include a historical commentary on the area, will make stops at the Luther Burbank Gardens in Santa Rosa, the Petrified Forest, the Calistoga Hot Springs, the Beringer Winery, and the Sonoma Mission and city square. The bus will return to Stanford about 7:30 p.m. The cost of the trip will be $3.00, with a 75 cents admission charge at the hot springs. Students are asked to bring a sack lunch, and an ID if they want to taste wine.

http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19630705-01.2.12&srpos=21&e=-------en-20--21--txt-txIN-Hot+Springs------

plus many references to Boyes Hot Springs in Sonoma, as well ...


Searched on the Grateful Dead in the Stanford Daily Archive and found much, for example ...

http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=q&hs=1&r=1&results=1&txf=txIN&txq=Grateful+Dead&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------



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Ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy will allow all of us to add our historical video ... IN SITU VIRTUALLY - in a realistic virtual earth where and when the video was taken

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How best to wiki-add brain and gene research videos, photos and computer modeling in place with time slider in a realistic 3D virtual earth - for the benefits of group knowledge generation? 







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Friday, February 24, 2017

Andean condor: Inspiringly, educationally, generatively (and MIT) brilliant dialogue ... "Conversation with Megan Smith" with Joichi Ito, To http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Inspiration_in_learning_and_teaching at CC MIT OCW-centric World University and School ... planned in all countries' main languages + ... To Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology_-_MIT - & to Women's_and_Gender_Studies at WUaS, "I'm Anant Agarwal, CEO of edX, and This Is How I Work," And re a realistic virtual Harbin/STEM earth too for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy


Inspiringly, educationally, generatively (and MIT) brilliant dialogue ... To - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Inspiration_in_learning_and_teaching - at CC MIT OCW-centric World University and School ... planned in all countries' main languages + ...


Conversation with @smithmegan and @joi +Joichi Ito
... just posted this here too - https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch

Conversation with Megan Smith


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWDUlKLwO1U
Published on Feb 22, 2017
Megan Smith - the former CTO of the United States serving under President Obama. In conversation about tech, digital government, inclusion and the opportunities ahead.

(https://plus.google.com/+ScottMacLeodWUaS/posts/5DT8Ue6E6vm)

Further Megan Smith inspirations, lego teaching, generatively (and MIT) brilliant
https://www.media.mit.edu/videos/megan-in-motion-1988-03-20/

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To
Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology_-_MIT -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology_-_MIT

& to
Women's_and_Gender_Studies at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Women%27s_and_Gender_Studies

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https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/833795921250881536
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https://twitter.com/MIT/status/834842510849630209
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"I'm Anant Agarwal, CEO of edX, and This Is How I Work"

http://lifehacker.com/im-anant-agarwal-ceo-of-edx-and-this-is-how-i-work-1792627484

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And re a realistic virtual Harbin/STEM earth too for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy ...


https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/835229732836790272

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http://worlduniversityandschool.org


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Thursday, February 23, 2017

Alouatta (howler monkey): The Role of Dialog in Augmented Intelligence - Murray Campbell, Translation informing your IBM work?, “A Universal Translator as a Cognitive System, beginning as a Guidebook with Test” - Scott MacLeod, How will say IBM and Google and Apple and Microsoft and Amazon, and car manufacturing companies - and the United Nations - and universities in all countries' main and official languages all come together to codevelop an Universal Translator? World University and School seeks to develop an Universal Translator for dialog, Here, too, are "14 Planned WUaS revenue streams" with ~10 emergent ones on WUaS upcoming publicly traded for-profit side, in each of the ~200 countries/nation states/sovereign states' main and official languages, as well as in all 7,097 living languages, each a market


The Role of Dialog in Augmented Intelligence - Murray Campbell

Thanks, Murray, for your fascinating IBM CSIG talk just now. In what ways have questions of translation informed your IBM work on "The Role of Dialog in Augmented Intelligence" re interactive systems that learn? I ask in the context of developing CC MIT OCW-centric (in 7 languages) wiki (like Wikipedia in 358 languages) World University and School - worlduniversityandschool.org - which plans to develop an universal translator - see my IBM CSIG talk slides here - https://www.slideshare.net/diannepatricia/a-universal-translator-as-a-cognitive-system-beginning-as-a-guidebook-with-test - in all 7,097 living languages). Thank you. Scott MacLeod (scottmacleod.com)
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/6729452/6729452-6240563626407718912

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"The Role of Dialog in Augmented Intelligence" - Murray Campbell

https://www.slideshare.net/diannepatricia/the-role-of-dialog-in-augmented-intelligence

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Murray Campbell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Campbell

https://www.linkedin.com/in/murray-campbell-5b42a75/

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“A Universal Translator as a Cognitive System, beginning as a Guidebook with Test” - Scott MacLeod

https://www.slideshare.net/diannepatricia/a-universal-translator-as-a-cognitive-system-beginning-as-a-guidebook-with-test

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How will say IBM and Google and Apple and Microsoft and Amazon, and car manufacturing companies - and the United Nations' real time translations of dialogs (as a possible excellent translated vocal dialogue data source) - and universities in all countries' main and official languages all come together to co-develop an Universal Translator? World University and School seeks to develop this.


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Glad to have heard last night in San Francisco at the Wikimedia Salon from Wikidata's Product Manager Lydia Pinscher that Wikidata is focusing on developing Wiktionary (a CC wiki dictionary in its 358 languages) as a priority - which will potentially inform probably many translation systems.

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Hi Dianne and All, 

Here's a blog post about Murray's talk - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/02/alouatta-howler-monkey-role-of-dialog.html - and re all-languages' World University and School, accrediting on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC, with plans for augmented intelligence and re an Universal Translator for dialog - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - probably drawing on Wiktionary for lexemic data. (I gave an IBM CSIG talk as you'll see on an Universal Translator beginning as a Guidebook with Test). Here, too, are "14 Planned WUaS revenue streams" - http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/2016/01/14-planned-wuas-revenue-streams.html - with ~10 emergent ones on WUaS upcoming publicly traded for-profit side, in each of the ~200 countries/nation states/sovereign states' main and official languages, as well as in all 7,097 living languages, each a market. Looking forward to future CSIG talks. 

Best regards, 
Scott




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Wednesday, February 22, 2017

Gyps himalayensis: Realistic Virtual Humans -from Youtube/Vimeo videos to a realistic OpenSim/SL and at the cellular & atomic levels in Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider - for medical research and clinical practice, Need to create the application / software to translate between Youtube and 3D interactive virtual worlds (such as OpenSim/SL but realistically, yet group build-able, with voice), Avatar Agency, Be free, little Avatars!, Bots that are independent and free with intentional causation?, Examples of Angela & Victor as avatars, Google's Thomas Dean and Stanford's Ivan Soltesz, Being informed by Google and Stanford for medical research as well as clinical practice - in all ~200 countries' main languages - would indeed give form to this in great ways, (And I'm looking too to studying loving bliss neurophysiology in the virtual Harbin warm pool possibly with brainwave headsets - and re ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy)


Virtual Humans-from Youtube/Vimeo videos to a realistic OpenSim/SL and at the cellular & atomic levels in Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider - for Medical Research and clinical practice ...


Need to create the application / software to translate between Youtube and 3D interactive virtual worlds (such as OpenSim/SL but realistically, yet group build-able, with voice and especially with avatars/bots with voice) .... and then code further so programmers and builders can set these avatars "free" in different ways ... (and especially in all languages).

Let's set all these little avatars free ... Be free, avatars!

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How best to create this for brain research in a realistic virtual earth?

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Conceptually and thinking in terms of the Google Brain Project, Google Translate, Google TensorFlow and Youtube with Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider and Stanford Medicine, how to bring Google's Thomas Dean - https://research.google.com/pubs/author189.html and  https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=5Qux0nMAAAAJ - and Stanford's Ivan Soltesz - https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ivan-soltesz and https://med.stanford.edu/ivansolteszlab.html - and especially for coding for brain science at the cellular and atomic with mathematical equations in the AI and machine learning for scientific experimentalism (and in all 8k languages)?


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Here's a way of envisioning how 3D interactive Angela and Victor avatars might become virtual Yoga instructors in one's own home ~

Ovary (botany): Realistic Angela and Victor avatars in a realistic virtual earth, How such live-feeling interactive guidance could emerge interactively, and in ongoing new ways, The language describing Angela's workshop has changed to Angela's language since the other day, "Reaching Down to Open Up with Angela Farmer" in Berkeley in October!


https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/02/ovary-botany-realistic-angela-and.html

So how best to go from videos of Angela and Victor teaching in their yoga courses to Youtube/Vimeo to ... application / software which transposes to a realistic Google Streetview+ (newly developed with realistic OpenSim/SL) ... to avatar agency?

And then how best to go from the Google Streetview level of a realistic virtual earth with avatars (way beyond "Pegman" to say the least) to research at the cellular and atomic levels inside realistic virtual avatars?


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Being informed by Google and Stanford for medical research as well as clinical practice - in all ~200 countries' main languages - would indeed give form to this in great ways.

(And I'm looking too to studying loving bliss neurophysiology in the virtual Harbin warm pool possibly with brainwave headsets - and re ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy).





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Tuesday, February 21, 2017

Tibetan Plateau: [Medianthro] 59th E-seminar - Open to all. "Being There" ... "‘Being there’, phone in hand: Thick presence and ethnographic fieldwork with media" by Nina Grønlykke Mollerup, Moving and very interesting theoretical contributions to ethnographic "place-making," Wonder if ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy as a complementary new methodology could come into conversation with this



[Medianthro] 59th E-seminar - Open to all. "Being There"

Thank you for your moving and very interesting theoretical contributions to ethnographic "place-making," Nina, and in this thread too.


‘Being there’, phone in hand: Thick presence and ethnographic fieldwork with media Nina Grønlykke MollerupWorking Paper for
The EASA Media Anthropology Network's 58
th e-Seminar
www.media-anthropology.net 

http://www.media-anthropology.net/file/mollerup_beingthere.pdf

http://www.media-anthropology.net/index.php/e-seminars 

I wonder if ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy as a complementary new methodology could come into conversation fruitfully with this. Here are some slides from a talk I gave in the UC Berkeley anthropology department in November 2015 on this re my new actual-virtual Harbin Springs' ethnography -

Naked Harbin and Ethno-Wiki-Virtual-World-Graphy:

Methodologies for Ethnographically Studying Virtual Place: Virtual Harbin

36 slides from UC Berkeley talk on F 11/6/15


Thank you. 

Best, 
Scott



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Dear Scott and all,

Thank you for sharing your slides about ‘ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy’; it looks like a fascinating project. Having never encountered this methodology before, I’m not sure how much I would be able to say about how well it complements ideas about place-making, but I would be happy to hear your thoughts on this.

I should point out that the kind of place-making I am speaking of should not be understood in any virtual sense; I understand places as critically emplaced in the phenomenological world and notions such as third place or virtual place sit uneasy with me. Different forms of media, of course, can be hugely influential on places, but in my understanding of place, media cannot constitute places removed from the phenomenological world. But as I said, not having any knowledge of ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy’ I am not sure I am reading it appropriately.

Cheers,
Nina

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Hi Nina and all, 

Thanks for your reply, Nina.

Where does your work head into a realistic virtual earth, I ask myself - re the actual and virtual of "being there" or "thick description"? Conceptually, I have in mind, a phenomenologically realistic WIKI Google Streetview / Maps / Earth with TIME SLIDER and with eventual avatars which is group build-able (like OpenSim/Second Life, but realistic) and eventually with an universal translator in all 7,097 living languages (where Google Translate is in 103, and Wikipedia / Wikidata is in 358) - for STEM researchers to add their data, photos, video, films, and computer modeling +. So this would be wiki (group-editable in multiple languages) - where we can all add these resources allowing for openness and ever growing anthropological thickness - both of description as well as of presence (and of thickness of integration of media elements, interactivity, hypermedia, immersion, and narrativity re the overture in Packer and Jordan 2001 - a theoretical departure place for me), even as the actual on-the-ground "ethnographic present" continues to unfold and inform this developing realistic virtual earth. 

I wonder conceptually whether such a developing realistic virtual earth for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy (e.g. in Google Streetview +) would further contribute representationally to your observation that 


"As much as anthropologists have esteemed studies of particularly isolated people (somehow it seems studies which have included painstaking trips on a donkey’s back to reach a field site has a certain exalted status in our field), our fields have of course never been isolated (Mark’s attention to environmental issues is just one apt example here). To me, doing fieldwork with a smartphone in my hand has opened my eyes to the ways places are always open. It has also affected the ways the places I have been part of have been open to other places. By doing so, it has challenged the dichotomy of ‘being there’ and doing ‘anthropology at a distance’. To me, this has significant methodological and theoretical implications for ethnography that I hope we will pay more attention to, especially with the
threat of the digital making us lose focus on the way both we and our digital media are always embodied in the world."


With a realistic virtual earth, would place-making emerge as a new (writing / graphy / making / representing) as well as virtual phenomenological frontier relative to your thinking about the actual phenomenological, I wonder, further challenging "the dichotomy of ‘being there’ and doing ‘anthropology at a distance’ - also with methodological implications? (For example, with regard to my actual / virtual ethnographic field site, Harbin Hot Springs, and in my language, in what ways does/will/is ethnographic field work - participant observation, thick description and presence - in the actual phenomenological on-the-ground alternative hippy-to-the-hot-springs Harbin hot springs' warm pool differ from, (be) similar to and wiki-inform ethnographic field work in a developing realistic virtual earth (including at the cellular and atomic levels in Google Brain project for example for brain research) and visiting a realistic virtual Harbin warm pool in one's bath tub from home - if we are all creating this via ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy?)


You write: 
"that the kind of place-making I am speaking of should not be understood in any virtual sense; I understand places as critically emplaced in the phenomenological world and notions such as third place or virtual place sit uneasy with me. Different forms of media, of course, can be hugely influential on places, but in my understanding of place, media cannot constitute places removed from the phenomenological world. But as I said, not having any knowledge of ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy’ I am not sure I am reading it appropriately."

And you write further: 
"To me, doing fieldwork with a smartphone in my hand has opened my eyes to the ways places are always open." I wonder if, further, ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy with its focus on group ethnographic virtual world generation or making - with smart phone in hand - will put the smartphone into Google Cardboard on your or my face acting as an actual-virtual intermediary?"


If one could convert your videos, for example, from the Egyptian uprising in 2012-2013 into a Google Streetview / OpenSimulator interactive build-able environment (which application isn't made yet - and avatar-bots with agency are only beginning to develop), and then interact ethnographically in terms of thick presence with these new avatar bots (say in 5 years from now - as A.I., machine learning and machine translation develop) - and with video also from the present converted into interactive avatar bots/realistic virtual earth - of you and your compatriots then and now - how would this further inform your understanding of thick presence phenomenologically on-the-ground re thick presence virtually, I ask myself?

Would Elisenda's observation about and appreciation of your "location, temporality and presence and the management of the prefix co-  to construct your issue"  lead to new ways of rethinking anthropological thick presence, conceptually, re a realistic virtual earth for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy? (As a beginning example of this, I added a picture of the Harbin Gate House from 2001 in the Google Streetview virtual earth of the Harbin Gate House here - http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg ... accessible here http://twitter.com/HarbinBook - and eventually I think we will be able to add our own ethnographic videos, for example, which will then become interactive bots - for both a kind of historical virtual anthropology, as well as unfolding frontier virtual anthropology with avatar agency; see, too - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/avatar%20agency - for related ideas). 

Thank you for your thought-provoking "thick presence" place-making thinking, Nina. 




Best, Scott





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