Tuesday, March 6, 2018

Fynbos: Medicine grand rounds' conversation 2/28/18, Houcemeddine Turki - "[Wikidata] My proposals about Wikidata to Wikimania 2018," Online medical school with online teaching hospital in South Africa?, WUaS would like too to plan to grow out of Project Baseline, (with related Medicine talks' videos accessible from here, and specifically about Project ECHO too, and eventually toward avatar bots of humans for clinical care, and even tele-robotic-surgery, (and genomics too - ), and re our online medical schools



Sunday, March 4, 2018 

 Dear Mr. or Ms.,
I thank you for your efforts. I have made two proposals in https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2018. My username is Csisc. Feel free to discuss and join them. I will acknowledge any comment or advice.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

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Dear Houcemeddine Turki, and Wikidatans,

thanks for your interesting proposal - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2018#Wikidata_for_medical_decision_support - and potentially re Tunisia in north Africa and in the Arabic language (do I surmise correctly - since Wikidata is in 297+ languages?).

In this proposal directly above yours - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2018#Online_wiki_universities_in_South_Africa_and_..._for_free_online_best_STEM_CC-4_OpenCourseWare_degrees - World University and School would like to develop online CC-4 OpenCourseWare online medical schools for online medical degrees, and with online teaching hospitals for clinical care (and medical decision support) in South Africa, and in each of all 54-57 African countries. Since I won't be able to attend this Wikimania 2018 conferences (due to lack of finances) would you like to facilitate the workshop I've proposed (and I could help remotely), perhaps dovetailing our two proposals in Wikidata in multiple ways?

Sincerely,
Scott
- https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Scott_WorldUnivAndSch

- https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States
- http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University_Medical_School
- https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital
- https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Clinical_Trials_at_WUaS_(for_all_languages)
- https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Pharmacology


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Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. It is an honour for me to work with you on your proposals and present it if accepted in Wikimania. As well, it is an honour for me to let you help me with my Wikimania proposal entitled Wikidata for medical decision support.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

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De : Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com>
Envoyé : dimanche 4 mars 2018 18:24:07
À : Discussion list for the Wikidata project; turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr
Objet : Re: [Wikidata] My proposals about Wikidata to Wikimania 2018

Dear Houcemeddine Turki, and Wikidatans, ... 

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Dear Mr. Houcemeddine Turki, and Wikidatans,

Thank you for your kind words, and it will indeed be good to explore developing this together for Wikimania 2018 in South Africa this July. Since World University and School can't afford to attend this conference, and will be likely working remotely, and since bringing our two projects together (medical decision support in Tunisia in Arabic+, and online CC-4 OpenCourseWare online medical schools for online medical degrees, and with online teaching hospitals for online clinical care in South Africa, and in each of all 54-57 African countries' official and main languages - in Wikidata/Wikibase with WUaS Miraheze Mediawiki) is such a ginormous project, I likely won't be making a proposal, and encourage you to add simply a line in your proposal about World Univ & Sch's proposed online medical schools+. Medical translation for medical schools and clinical care+ is another significant facet here.

Looking forward to further communication, Csisc.

Sincerely,
Scott



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leadsong@webname.com

11:25 AM (23 hours ago)
to turkiabdelwaheb, me
Please consider joining https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med and discussing your ideas there too.
LeadSong

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Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. I will add to my proposal that Wikidata as a medical decision support system can be useful for medical skills' learning and consequently for World University and School.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

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De : Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com>Envoyé : lundi 5 mars 2018 18:50:53
À : abdelwaheb turki
Cc : Discussion list for the Wikidata project
Objet : Re: [Wikidata] My proposals about Wikidata to Wikimania 2018

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Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com

2:34 PM (19 hours ago)
to leadsong, Houcemeddine
LeadSong, (and Csisc),

LeadSong, (and Csisc),

Thanks for the information about joining https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med and discussing our https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2018 projects there.

Cheers, Scott


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Tuesday, March 6, 2018

Dear A (and A), 

It was great to talk with you last Wednesday after Grand Rounds on 2/28 - http://quertermous.stanford.edu/seminars/medicine/eventDetails.do?semid=124078 - and about your chief residents' Grand Rounds' presentation on January 17th - http://medicinecalendars.stanford.edu/event/medicine-grand-rounds-case-study-presentation/?instance_id=20783 (and https://medicine.stanford.edu/news/current-news/standard-news/chiefresidents2017.html). There's actually a photo here at World University and School - https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch?lang=en - of the most common internal medicine diagnoses, which you shared as a slide in all of your talk. As you observed last week to me, A, such diagnoses will likely be different country to country. If one were to focus on such diagnoses in an online medical school with online teaching hospital in each of all ~200 countries' main languages, this would make a great starting place from which to grow - with many patients, and with much opportunity to develop online therapeutic approaches, potentially in new ways.

I'm writing to follow up on your mentioning the medical teaching/learning online modules, A. (Are the ones used for medical students' education managed by the New England Journal of Medicine - NEJM's medicine learning modules (https://knowledgeplus.nejm.org/products/ and http://www.nejm.org/cme/weekly-cme-program?). In World University and School's seeking to create online medical schools with online teaching hospitals for clinical care in all ~200 countries' main and official languages, I wonder if we might explore developing an online medical student curriculum from these - and eventually in many languages, and for different nation states? 

World University and School is like Wikipedia in 298 languages with CC-4 MIT OpenCourseWare in 5 languages, and seeks to offer online M.D., Bachelor, Ph.D., law and I.B. high school degrees in all ~200 countries' official / main languages. 

And in World University and School seeking to give a workshop in South Africa at Wikimania 2018 in South Africa (since WUaS donated itself to Wikimedia's Wikidata/Wikibase knowledge database in its 298 languages in 2015) in late July (if World University and School can get the monies), I wonder if we might explore together developing a model for an online medical school and teaching hospital for South Africa for this summer, and grow out from this, conceptually, to all 54-57 African countries (and eventually in all ~200 countries' official/main languages)?

Are you both going to listen to the online Project Baseline (which is housed at Stanford) presentation this afternoon from 1:30-1:55 - https://twitter.com/StanfordDeptMed/status/970817342631325696 ? WUaS would like too to plan to grow out of Project Baseline, (with related Medicine talks' videos accessible from - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/12/chiricahua-national-monument-projects.html - as well as specifically about Project ECHO - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/06/bezoar-ibex-capra-aegagrus-stanford.html), and eventually toward avatar bots of humans for clinical care, and even tele-robotic-surgery, (and genomics too - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Genomics), and re our online medical schools. 
Might we three possibly meet tomorrow morning after Grand Rounds briefly to talk about this a little further? Thank you. 

Best regards, 
Scott





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- Scott MacLeod - Founder & President  

- World University and School


- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 

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Hi Scott,



I’m afraid A and I don’t have the bandwidth to help with the projects you describe below, but wish you all the best with your ongoing work on your world school.



Sincerely,


A




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Hi A and A,

Thanks so much for your email, A. Good to see that "lungs" are one main focus of the 10,000 person Project Baseline - https://twitter.com/StanfordDeptMed/status/970817342631325696 - which was discussed today online at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvviCQsYzJg - and where the video may become available too. And I hope the online South Africa medical school with online teaching hospital for clinical care at World University and School will happen baby step after baby step.



I'll reach out to B.H. about this again, having met with him for 30 minutes last autumn about related questions, and explore some further baby step possibilities with him.

Sincerely, Scott






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