Common bluebell: Ongoing envisioning of upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here, Rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, here's great GHB piper Alasdair Gillies here playing Cabar Feidh in 4 different ways ... "Cabar Feidh - March, CabarFeidh - Strathspey, Cabar Feidh - Reel, Cabar Feidh – Jig," Grateful Dead and bagpipes, and here are two tunes "Wharf Rat" and "St. Stephen/The Eleven (Aoxomoxoa outtakes)" I like a lot (re Jori Chisholm and Bobby Weir), Re "Honey in the Bag" CD ideas see these two recent blog entries A) "The sugar bag bee: " - (with more about introducing folk rock element into this), B) "Gobies: " - (with the beginning tune list and much more), Re Google's viral Bach Doodle re artificial intelligence A.I. and Bach, Thnx, Bruce for: 'Analyzing the Bach Harmonizer Doodle' video

Here's the tune "Honey in the Bag" played on the GHB ...


https://youtu.be/uLEuYHnMi4A

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And I appreciate the beauty of this Uilleann piping that also went 'viral' - so I think a lot of people appreciate this:
Slow Air "Táimse im' Chodladh" played on Uilleann Pipes followed by "King of the Pipers" Jig. Performed Live at the Island Arts Centre, Lisburn 2014

https://youtu.be/P40YOU8ggJk


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Hi Barbara and Patti, and All,

Get well soon, Barbara and Patti!

Ongoing envisioning of my upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here.

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You all might be interested rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, in great piper Alasdair Gillies here playing Cabar Feidh in 4 different ways ...

Cabar Feidh - March, CabarFeidh - Strathspey, Cabar Feidh - Reel, Cabar Feidh – Jig
Alasdair Gillies

https://youtu.be/mAn82Wt2FtM

Cabar Feidh - March,
CabarFeidh – Strathspey – 1:50 – 2:50
Cabar Feidh - Reel,
Cabar Feidh - Jig

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Am listening much too to Stuart LIddell - e.g. Inveroran (2007) ...

https://youtu.be/UO8yWFHFk8s - as I conceive of this "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD.

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And here's Kenny MacLean playing the Piobaireachd "The Desperate Battle" -

https://youtu.be/sVJG2pUw3gY - (where he won the Gold medal in Oban in 1974 playing this), and I may play this too on my CD ... am engaging the structure currently of Stuart Liddell's traditional "Inveroran" in developing the tunes I plan to play ...

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Am also listening too to the Grateful Dead and bagpipes, and here are two tunes, "Wharf Rat" and "St. Stephen/The Eleven (Aoxomoxoa outtakes)" - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/western-meadowlark-world-univ-sch-live.html - I like a lot (re Jori Chisholm and Bobby Weir), with bagpipe influences:

am liking at 2:30: https://youtu.be/MiQFha5I9_0  (which w amplification would work well w Scottish Smallpipes)

https://youtu.be/ZXijxfctaVI  & more subtly "St. Stephen/The Eleven (Aoxomoxoa outtakes, 1968)": https://youtu.be/I4Q3ziJIthc ~

bagpiping & the grateful dead https://t.co/qea341yz2D & am liking at 2:30: https://t.co/wx2pYz8tmN (which w amplification would work well w Scottish Smallpipes) https://t.co/s4AeW1YcSv & more subtly "St. Stephen/The Eleven (Aoxomoxoa outtakes, 1968)": https://t.co/L7tfUGDt7k ~

— scottmacleod (@scottmacleod) March 25, 2019

- https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1110280780301778945

- https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1110280941115600896

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And here are two recent blog entries (among a few) which gather together some of these "Honey in the Bag" CD ideas in this email thread):

"The sugar bag bee: " - (with more about introducing folk rock element into this)
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-sugar-bag-bee-other-bees-releasing.html

"Gobies: " - (with the beginning tune list and much more)
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/02/gobies-scott-macleods-honey-in-bag-cd.html

Would welcome your thinking with time (and re mic-ing and recording especially) ... and exploring folk rock (perhaps for another CD re Open Band) ...  about all of this :)

Musical cheers, Scott


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The sugar bag bee (& other BEEs): Releasing my "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 ~ re 'Brìghde Chaimbeul: The Reeling review – ancient Gaelic drones' thread * * * Some further small pipes' "Honey in the Bag" musings, Don't hear much great folk rock around the SF Bay Area these days (e.g. Jethro Tull's 'Bourree,' Steeleye Span, Fairport Convention, Pentangle - all from the '60s/'70s' chaotic dream of 'counterculture' ... and re rock and roll ... An emergent alternative culture then THAT generated an amazing music (how does a culture generate a music? :), Seems possible to play and explore folk rock building out of Open Band (Berkeley) creatively and as exploration, While "Hair," the musical (1967), isn't folk rock, I'll call it tribal rock and roll * * * Both Gordon Duncan and Stuart Liddell start strong, and almost kind of accelerate ... and they both pipe so so well, with such great GHB energy

- https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-sugar-bag-bee-other-bees-releasing.html -

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Gobies: Scott MacLeod's "Honey in the Bag" upcoming CD Tune List, Scottish small pipes' GHB bagpipe music and tunes I like a lot * * * Brìghde Chaimbeul's debut CD "The Reeling" * * * Just searched on: Can I make a CD from recording to youtube? Seems so * * * Stanford Law Blockchain Copyright Exchange (BCE) presentation and re the entertainment industry ... Am curious how you'd envision suggesting using BCE for Brìghde Chaimbeul's debut CD "The Reeling" on a C Scottish small pipes' chanter which she just put on Spotify, Stanford Law Blockchain Copyright Exchange (BCE) presentation: I think the 'building blocks' of such a system would be a Spotify music streaming app and an Indiegogo crowd funding app, and then Jiarui choosing one of two main blockchain BCE systems available to him as coder

- https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/02/gobies-scott-macleods-honey-in-bag-cd.html -

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Stuart Liddell’s “Inveroran” tune list & structure

http://www.stuartliddell.com/music/inveroran

1             2/4 Marches   

Stuart plays the 2/4 marches: Centenary Jewel and 71st Highlanders.

2             Jigs 

Stuart plays the jigs: Inspector Donald Campbell of Ness, The Old Woman's Dance, The Atholl Highlanders, and The Cameronian Rant.

3             Air and Hornpipes   

Stuart plays the air Mairi Bhan Og, and the hornpipes: The Miniscus and Michael Grey.

4             6/8 Marches   

Stuart plays the 6/8 Marches: The Dundee City Police Pipe Band and The Braemar Gathering.

5             Piobaireachd   

Stuart plays the piobaireachd: The Lament for the Dead.

6             Strathspeys and Reels    

Stuart plays the Strathspeys: Susan MacLeod and John Roy Stewart; and the reels: Thomson's Dirk and Willie Murray's Reel.

7             Gaelic Airs and Reels      

Stuart plays the gaelic airs: A Mhoire Mhin-gheal, Fagail Bharraidh, and Tom an T-Searraich; and the Reels: Break your bass drone, Harris Dance, MacFadden's Reel, Alasdair Fraser's Welcome to Cape Breton and The Sheepwife.

8             March, Strathspey and Reel    

Stuart plays the march: The Abercairney Highlanders; the strathspey: Lady Loudon; and the reel: The Smith of Chilliechassie.

9             Jig and Waltz  

Stuart plays the jig: Troy's Wedding; and the watlz: The Viennese Waltz.

10           4/4 Marches   

Stuart plays the 4/4 marches: Murdo's Wedding, Flett from Flotta, Loch Ruan, and The Battle of Waterloo.

11           Jig and Hornpipe

Stuart plays the jig: The Blue Cloud; and the hornpipe: The Mason's Apron.

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The New York Recordings 1967

Pipe Major Donald MacLeod

https://www.amazon.com/New-York-Recordings-1967/dp/B0090AXEAO

1

6/8 Marches: The Cock Of The North, The Campbells Are Coming, The Pibroch Of Donald Dhu

2:47       

2

Strathspeys & Reels: Devil In The Kitchen, Craig-a-Bodich, Loudens Bonnie Woods & Braes, Reel Of Tulloch, High Road To Linton, Mrs MacLeod Of Raasay

2:52       

3

Slow Airs & Hornpipe: Cronan (Na Callaich), An Island Lullaby, The Man From Skye

4:41       

4

2/4 Marches: 79th's Fairwell To Gibralter, The Atholl & Breadalbane Gathering

3:01       

5

Piobaireachd: Donald Dugal Mackay

14:03             

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6/8 Marches: Colonel Robertson, Leaving Port Askaig

2:44       

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Slow March & Retreat March: Lochaber No More, The Banks Of The Lossie

3:54       

8

Marches & Jigs: Wee Highland Laddie, The Meeting Of The Waters, Hen's March, Glasgow Police Pipers

4:02       

9

Hornpipes: The Irish Washerwife, PM George Allen

2:46       

10

March, Strathspey, & Reel: Donald MacLellan Of Rothesay, Delvinside, Miss Proud

3:30       

11

6/8 Marches: The Invercharrow Highland Gathering, All The Blue Bonnets Over The Border

2:58       

12

Piobaireachd: Cronan Na Caillaich (Old Woman's Lullaby)

8:11       

13

Strathspey & Reel: Susan MacLeod, Thompson's Dirk

1:47       

14

Slow Air & Hornpipe: Malcolm Ferguson, MacKenzie Of Torridon

4:07       

15

Slow Marches & 2/4 Marches: Mist Covered Mountains, My Home, Mairi's Wedding, Dolan's Ass, Lord Panmure's March

5:21       

16

6/8 Marches: The Highland Brigade At Waterloo, Dr. Ross's 50th Welcome To The Argyllshire Gathering

3:19       

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Piobaireachd: Pretty Dirk

3:47       

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Some beats per minute GHB ideas ...

http://forums.bobdunsire.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-94946.html

How beats per minute make a march upper and lower limits.

Thanks

Cleg :hatoff:

John MacDonald

08-17-2004, 07:12 PM

If you play at 6/8 at pipe band pace then about 80-88. If you are doing regimental time 120 would be the absoloute maximum and it will not be comfortable or very sustainable

If you play a comp 2/4 then about 74 bpm will be what will bring the expression out but you may need to speed that up as well

John

Phil Lenihan

08-17-2004, 07:14 PM

This is what I have in my music binder:

2/4 solo tempo 63-66; band tempo 76-80

3/4 84

4/4 84

6/8 76-84

Starth. 120

Reels 76

Jigs 120

This should start a nice little exchange :eek:

Cheers! PHIL

Cleg

08-17-2004, 07:34 PM

Thanks: We are playing Blue Bells of Scotland and when I hear it played on a Cd it sounds very fast like 120. It is a March but 120 would be really fast, :eek: I thought for a March.

Il GrandiSSSimo

08-18-2004, 12:59 AM

According to great piper John McLellan (Fifties-Sixties), these are the bpm's for different types of ceol beag music:

slow airs 52-58

6/8 marches 80-84

4/4 marches 84-90

2/4 marches 84-90

retreats 84-90

jigs 124-128

hornpipes 104-110 (wow!!)

reels 100-108 (gulp!)

strathspey 132 (not negotiable!)

competition 2/4 march 68-74

competition reel 84-92

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Am thinking I'd like to begin with 6/8s ... a bit like Donald MacLeod above ...

So, here's Stuart Liddell below ... 'playing some 6/8 marches(Leaving Port Askaig, The 10th H.L.I. Crossing the Rhine, and Bonnie Dundee)' ...

Stuart Liddell Recital (1) - Ipswich Piping Society 2017

https://youtu.be/CiEQPqvV3WQ


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Bruce Herbold:

in re: the Google Bach doodle, you might enjoy this... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDqx14lZ_ls


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And re Bach Doodle (see again - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/western-meadowlark-world-univ-sch-live.html)

Thnx, Bruce for: 'Analyzing the Bach Harmonizer Doodle' ... https://youtu.be/xDqx14lZ_ls - informative, instructive and insightful ... was wondering how something like Bach Doodle might eventually integrate A.I.-wise the 4 different March, Strathspey, Reel and Jig versions of Cabar Feidh played by Gillies as well. And how can it be coded for heading toward making and subsequent learning of beautiful Bach harmonies at this stage? ... And what data set (like Bach's 300 + pieces) would I train 'Piping Google Doodle' on with GHB piping music for generating beautiful piping sheet music harmonies, what pipers call 'seconds,' and for it ( 'Piping Google Doodle - PGD' ) to learn this harmonizing, and for it to be of Google-help to Pipers? (And for PGD to 'output' to MuseScore sheet music, since MuseScore has a GHB-Great Highland Bagpipe notation sheet music focus). Not sure ... More to play around with with this video harmony-wise ...

Cheers, and interesting! Scott

https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/common-bluebell-ongoing-envisioning-of.html 

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Am seeking to create something new on the Scottish small pipes in "Honey in the Bag" CD, and when much of the above is Great Highland Bagpipe focused ...

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Posted too to my FB - https://www.facebook.com/bagpiper :

Common bluebell: Ongoing envisioning of upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here, Rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, here's Alasdair Gillies' Cabar Feidh, Grateful Dead and Bagpiping, Google's viral Bach Doodle re artificial intelligence & Piping A.I. - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/common-bluebell-ongoing-envisioning-of.html ~

https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1110974895318396928

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1110974694063128576 ...


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Common bluebell: Ongoing envisioning of upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here, Rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, here's Alasdair Gillies' Cabar Feidh Google's viral Bach Doodle re artificial intelligence A.I. & Piping https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2019/03/common-bluebell-ongoing-envisioning-of.html ~

Common bluebell: Ongoing envisioning of upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here, Rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, here's Alasdair Gillies' Cabar Feidh Google's viral Bach Doodle re artificial intelligence A.I. & Piping https://t.co/nzvK4OpICK ~

— Open Band (Berkeley) (@TheOpenBand) March 27, 2019

https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1110974895318396928

Common bluebell: Ongoing envisioning of upcoming "Honey in the Bag" Scottish small pipes' CD in 2020 here, Rhythmically, Scottish piping music-wise, here's Alasdair Gillies' Cabar Feidh Google's viral Bach Doodle re artificial intelligence A.I. & Piping https://t.co/JnVYVCGI7g ~

— scottmacleod (@scottmacleod) March 27, 2019

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1110974694063128576

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