Tuesday, June 10, 2025

Aechmea fasciata: Greetings ... Regarding this Yoga Philosophy Discussion Group here and now, Brainstorming, and re "#YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?" - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html - and aging reversal genetic drug therapies emerging, and potentially reversing aging for Harbin's current founder Kriya Yogi Harvard alumnus too Ishvara Bob Hartley, potentially also in combination with a chair yoga course in a Harbin Hot Springs' warm pool, how might Angela & Victor possibly come to Harbin to teach a Yoga course in this (Angela has taught many Yoga courses for women at Harbin), - to teach Chair Yoga in warm water (for the inner releasing meditation benefits), and for 90 year olds, especially Ishvara and others, - and as possibly musculoskeletal system genetic drug therapies develop for experimentation and clinical trials and even under hippy HIPAA protocols (George, which copies of genes would you suggest to add back in to 90 year olds, George, for reversal of muscle wasting) ?

 


Yoga #GeneticDrugTherapies for #YogaAgingReversal #YogaExtremeLongevity #AgingReversal #ExtremeLongevity w #ChairYogaInWarmWater #ForInnerReleasingActionMeditation "#YogaGenetics? - higher faster stronger athletics & #ETHICS?" - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html?
-https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/06/aechmea-fasciata.html ~ 

https://x.com/Q_YogaMacFlower/status/1932527115150454916

https://x.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1932526932480176191

https://x.com/scottmacleod/status/1932526394401304737

https://x.com/sgkmacleod/status/1932527400287678941

https://x.com/HarbinBook/status/1932527929592066503

https://x.com/WUaSPress/status/1932527700457169236

https://x.com/TheOpenBand/status/1932528193854132292




Retweeting -

Iyengar Yoga (UK)I
@UKIYENGARYOGA


"Don't practice for cosmetic beauty, practice for cosmic beauty. Practice for inner beauty and inner light." ~ B.K.S. Iyengar

#bksiyengar #iyengaryoga #beauty

https://x.com/UKIYENGARYOGA/status/1691006037917134848




slightly expanded - 
Yoga #GeneticDrugTherapies for #YogaAgingReversal #YogaExtremeLongevity #AgingReversal #ExtremeLongevity with #ChairYogaInWarmWater #ForInnerReleasingActionMeditation "#YogaGenetics? For performance -



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Dear George (Church, Harvard Medical School), Yogis Angela (Farmer) & Victor (Van Kooten), Yogi Tom (Hess),  Ed (Smyth MD), Byron (Hann MD PhD), All,  

Greetings ... Regarding this Yoga Philosophy Discussion Group here and now, Brainstorming, and re "#YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?" - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html - and aging reversal genetic drug therapies emerging, and potentially reversing aging for Harbin's current founder Kriya Yogi Harvard alumnus too Ishvara Bob Hartley, potentially also in combination with a chair yoga course in a Harbin Hot Springs' warm pool, how might Angela & Victor possibly come to Harbin to teach a Yoga course in this (Angela has taught many Yoga courses for women at Harbin), - to teach Chair Yoga in warm water (for the inner releasing meditation benefits), and for 90 year olds, especially Ishvara and others, - and as possibly musculoskeletal system genetic drug therapies develop for experimentation and clinical trials and even under hippy HIPAA protocols (George, which copies of genes would you suggest to add back in to 90 year olds, George, for reversal of muscle wasting) ? 

"wonder how such possible Yoga asana genetic drug therapies emerging might work with even Chair Yoga for 105 year olds (with their declining 'gene function' and see - Harvard and MIT Professor of Genetics' George Church's 60 Minutes' 66 seconds video -

"How soon could humans reverse the aging process with genetic engineering?" (2019)
https://youtu.be/bnCEIPQFNnk "

https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/03/marble-mountain-wilderness-ca.html


This morning, Heather Dance Yogi Christensen (no longer in this email thread) had brought a Yoga chair (e.g. for shoulder stands) into the Harbin pool area, and we started talking about how we might develop Chair Yoga with genetic yoga therapies for aging reversal emerging and regarding. your, George, 2019 interview with Scott Pelley in these regards - https://youtu.be/bnCEIPQFNnk ... and with Ishvara Bob Hartley in mind, who at age 91 seems to move quite slowly getting out of the warm pools (holding onto the railing like walking up Mt Everest). As we talked further, Heather said Ishvara doesn't do Yoga asana, but does Kriya Yoga ... and I asked what would happen if Anglea and Victor came to Harbin again and to teach a Chair Yoga course ... and as aging reversal genetic drug therapies are coming along in the next 5-10 years - since Angela moves away from asana - such that Ishvara Bob Hartley could possibly live to 150 years of age. 


George, would adding some of these genes back into people's bodies, especially people in their 90s, -

Genetic Markers Associated with Power Athlete Status (2019)

Genes and Athletic Performance: The 2023 Update (2023)

help Ishvara Bob Hartley - and in combination with Chair Yoga partly in warm pools at Harbin - for example reverse his aging genetically? How will genetic drug therapies for aging reversal and extreme longevity move through our bodies, and with exercise such as Yoga asana, when they emerge, say, for example, through the entire musculo-skeletal system of a human being in their 90s?

And how could we even develop a scientific study for this ? And how could we do this even in a #RealisticVirtualHarbin a #RealisticVirtualEarthForClinicalTrials a #RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics, #TextInTheSideBar ... and to publish possible scientific papers from such studies from Google Street View with time slider, #GCellView #GMolculeView to paper at first from text in the sidebar of #GStreetView?

Angela and Victor, would you be interested, as these aging reversal and extreme longevity genetic drug therapies emerge e.g. in HIPAA informed US clinical trials / similar, coming to Harbin Hot Springs to teach Chair Yoga in warm pools to Ishvara Bob Hartley (potentially experimentally too)?

Yogaically,  thanks, Namaste,
Scott



"For #Olympics? #YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?"




PPS


How best @ hashtagYogaWUaS for 95 yo+ in walkers to combine hashtagAngelaVictorInspiredYoga hashtagChairYoga w hashtagAgingReversal & hashtagExtremeLongevity hashtagGeneTherapies to hashtagReverseMuscleWasting &re hashtagYogaNotationsWUaS Search on 'hashtagYogaGenetics' & 'higher faster stronger athletics' ~http://scottmacleod. com/yoganotations.html ?

https://x. com/scottmacleod/status/1863220748782911836

https://x. com/Q_YogaMacFlower/status/1863219956512358463

https://x. com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1863220547384918503

https://x. com/WUaSPress/status/1863221794607395117

https://x. com/sgkmacleod/status/1863221584074285367

https://x. com/HarbinBook/status/1863221691679166706

https://x. com/TheOpenBand/status/1863221441702825988


Retweeting -

As part of a sixty-day Resilience Program focused on mental health and wellness, a hashtagChairYoga and hashtagMeditation session was organized for hashtagDefenceCivilians at hashtagNADGoa. Renowned yoga teacher Miss Sumangali H Prahlad, a Super Randonneur and recipient of the hashtagNariShakti Award from the Chief Minister of Goa, conducted the session. Shri Bhupendra Sharma, hashtagINAS, General Manager, emphasized the long-term benefits of such programs in promoting a healthy lifestyle and enhancing daily well-being.
hashtagIndianNavy
hashtagHarKaamDeshKeNaam
hashtag2024YearOfNavalCivilians

https://x. com/IN_DCP/status/1857072017532502443

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RE FDA's (Food and Drug Administration in US federal government)
hashtagOneHealth VirtualSymposium with World Univ & Sch's
hashtagAvatarAgentElectronicHealthRecords for all ~7.9 billion people on planet, and for veterinary medicine animals and species +

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"I might be interested in developing online WUaS Yoga classes for people in all of these nation states after learning what happens on the ground there ... and for Unitarian Universalist friends like Christine Michaels too at Longwood senior center who uses a walker but who might be able to get stronger with Yoga asana AND with adding copies of genes back into her body to reverse aging at the same time and per this 66 second 60 Minutes' video interview with Harvard Professor of Genetics' George Church - " ... https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=bnCEIPQFNnk ~

https://scott-macleod.blogspot. com/2024/11/bob-marshall-wilderness-complex-montana.html

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QuakerYogaMacFlower
@Q_YogaMacFlower

Yoga ideas
hashtagQuakerYogaMacFlower
hashtagDesiderataWUaS
https://desiderata. com/desiderata.html
~hashtagToolifyAIWUaS hashtagWUaSBliss
https://toolify. ai/ai-news/revolutionizing-education-with-machine-learning-and-ai-2574306
~hashtagYogaNotationsWUaS
http://scottmacleod. com/yoganotations.html
~hashtagYogaWUaS @
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool. org/wiki/Yoga
hashtagFriendlyQuakerWUaS 🥰
hashtagWUaSabolition in hashtagRealisticVirtualEarth hashtagWUaSYoga ~ https://lnkd.in/gQsFJBWm

https://lnkd.in/gz4B8uzv

http://scottmacleod. com/yoganotations.html ~






PPPS
Re HIPAA and clinical trials - 

HIPAA regulations are essential in clinical trials to protect patient privacy and ensure secure handling of Protected Health Information (PHI). Researchers must obtain written authorization from participants before using or disclosing their PHI, and institutions involved in research must establish safeguards to prevent unauthorized access and use of the information. 
Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • HIPAA regulations apply to research involving PHI, particularly when that information is used to conduct the trial, create new PHI, or is disclosed as part of the study. 
  • For example, a clinical trial using medical charts, test results, or billing information to identify potential participants or establish baseline data would be subject to HIPAA. 
  • HIPAA requires a written authorization from participants before their PHI can be used or disclosed for research purposes.
  • This authorization must clearly outline the purpose of the research, how their PHI will be used, who may access it, and the time frame for using the information. 
3. IRB Review and Waivors:
  • Institutional Review Boards (IRBs) review research protocols to ensure they comply with ethical guidelines and regulations, including HIPAA. 
  • In certain cases, the IRB may grant a waiver of the HIPAA authorization requirement for specific research purposes, particularly when the PHI will be de-identified or used in a limited data set. 
4. Data Security and PHI Protections:
  • Researchers and institutions must implement adequate security measures to protect PHI from unauthorized access, use, or disclosure.
  • This includes using secure communication methods, such as HIPAA-compliant email services and encrypted email protocols, as well as establishing access controls and training personnel on HIPAA regulations. 
5. Compliance and Business Associate Agreements:
  • Researchers and institutions must comply with HIPAA regulations to protect patient privacy and avoid legal consequences. 
  • When researchers involve third parties in the research, they may need to enter into Business Associate Agreements (BAAs) to ensure that these third parties also comply with HIPAA requirements. 
6. HIPAA and Publication of Clinical Trial Data:
  • HIPAA continues to apply when the results of clinical trials are published or presented. 
  • Researchers must obtain written authorization from participants before publishing or presenting PHI, unless the information has been de-identifie



PPPPS
I searched for Kriya Yoga in Google AI Search and found - 

Kriya Yoga is a powerful meditation technique focused on pranayama (breath control) that aims to accelerate spiritual development and achieve profound tranquility and God-communion. It involves a series of practices, including mantra, mudra, and tapas (self-discipline), to help practitioners focus their attention and energy on the spiritual realm. Kriya Yoga is a path to spiritual union with the Divine, guided by a lineage of enlightened masters. 
Key aspects of Kriya Yoga:
  • Pranayama (Breath Control):
    Kriya Yoga emphasizes the relationship between the breath and the mind, using specific breathing techniques to influence mental and physical states. 
  • Spiritual Development:
    Kriya Yoga is designed to cultivate spiritual awareness and facilitate a deeper connection with one's inner self and the Divine. 
  • Techniques:
    Kriya Yoga incorporates various practices, including mantra chanting, mudra (hand gestures), and specific breath exercises. 
  • Kriya Yoga is passed down through a lineage of teachers, ensuring the accurate transmission of the techniques and knowledge. 
  • Acceleration of Spiritual Growth:
    Kriya Yoga is seen as a powerful technique to accelerate one's spiritual journey, leading to faster realization and union with the Divine. 
  • Simple Yet Profound:
    Kriya Yoga is described as a simple yet extraordinarily effective technique that can help practitioners transcend limitations and reach higher states of consciousness. 
Examples of Kriya Yoga practices:
  • Energization Exercises:
    These exercises, developed by Paramahansa Yogananda, prepare the body and mind for deeper meditation and spiritual practice. 
  • A mantra practice that involves focusing on the sound and vibration of AUM to cultivate inner peace and spiritual awareness. 
  • Kriya:
    The core technique of Kriya Yoga, involving specific breath control and mental focus, to draw life force energy up and down the spine. 
  • Hand gestures that can help to focus the mind and direct energy flow. 
  • Repetitive chants or sounds that can help to quiet the mind and connect with higher consciousness. 
Kriya Yoga is a versatile technique suitable for individuals of all religions and backgrounds seeking to deepen their spiritual practice and experience



PPPPPS

some related Yoga #GeneticDrugTherapies for #YogaAgingReversal #YogaExtremeLongevity #AgingReversal #ExtremeLongevity Tweets - 


Yoga #GeneticDrugTherapies for #YogaAgingReversal #YogaExtremeLongevity #AgingReversal #ExtremeLongevity? For #FreedomToDo #AllAsanas in #LightOnYoga in #PerfectRepose or w #innerBodyEasing w #YogaGeneticDrugs & for #HigherFasterStronger athletics too http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html How?

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1741117264940679533

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1741117801627058214

https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1741118193052037407

https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1741119793674047751 

https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1741118525324816522

https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1741119252222873909



Retweeting - 

Iyengar Yoga (UK)
@UKIYENGARYOGA
"Don't practice for cosmetic beauty, practice for cosmic beauty. Practice for inner beauty and inner light." ~ B.K.S. Iyengar

#bksiyengar #iyengaryoga #beauty

https://twitter.com/UKIYENGARYOGA/status/1691006037917134848



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How best to #AImap '#YogaAsanaBody' for #GeneticDrugTherapies e.g. for #FreedomToDo #AllAsanas in #LightOnYoga & for #AgingReversal #ExtremeLongevity targeting muscles eyes ears genitals skin #YogaGeneticDrugs & for #HigherFasterStronger athletics too http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html How?








Retweeting -

#lightonyoga artık Türkçe dilinde, nefis bir kitap olmuş. Kullanımı rahat, sayfalar yumuşak, içerik şahane! Teşekkürler Omega yayınevi. Alın, hediye edin. #yoga eğitmenleri ve eğitenleri ve tüm öğrenciler için bulunmaz bir eser. 



"For #Olympics? #YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?"


On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 8:15 AM Scott Yoga Mac Flower MacLeod <yogamacflower@gmail.com> wrote:
Yogi Tom, Pin, Yogis Angela & Victor possibly in Greece now (http://scottmacleod.com/AVGreetings.htm - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/Angela%20and%20Victor%20yoga), Ed, All, 





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Monday, June 9, 2025


Yogi Tom, Pin, Yogis Angela & Victor possibly in Greece now (http://scottmacleod.com/AVGreetings.htm - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/Angela%20and%20Victor%20yoga), Ed, All, 

Just shared some of this with Heather Dance Yogi Christensen at Harbin ... 
How best to generate a Yoga meditation ~ thinking ~ philosophy generative AI 'conversation' (eg regarding my incredible 2025 leased Toyota Sienna Woodland Edition minivan's punctured new tire and re the 'Jonny Streiter' and 'little john' names she shared with me after asking her in the new 2nd floor changing room what she'd do about it  How can Yoga meditating and thinking help Harbin post 2016 Valley Fire especially, I wonder, if the US federal government and the state of CA are playing significant roles in its re-building?

Yoga regards, Harbin ethnographically re Yoga, staying alive, abolition, Namaste, kindly, best wishes, 
Scott 

with yesterday's Sunday 6/8/25 email in it - 





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World University and School's wiki, 'Yoga,' subject page - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Yoga :) - with an invitation to 'edit this page' to learn or teach and explore yoga. 


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This is the Yoga kind of Yoga chair as prop Dance Yogi Heather brought in the Harbin pool area today ...


searched for 

yoga backless folding chair for shoulder stand as prop




https://www.yogikuti.com/product/yoga-chair/




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Please dear Scott,
Leave us doing what we are doing best and we are not interested in chair yoga..
We do use props, but are not dependent on them.
We are in our middle eighties, do not like technology and are deeply diving into our own nature in an ever growing way.
Too much people are using technology and becoming trapped in AI , while to us the only thing is the research into the never ending and for ever changing nature of our bodily existence…
How deep do you dare to travel into your own specific gift, your own unknown dark potentials!
You are more in a playfully design based upon the parallel but artificial world that is “LIKE”, but never “IS”.
Please you do your thing and let us do ours!
With love 💕 and peace, victor and probably angela, who rather speaks and writes her own song 💕

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 10, 2025, at 10:13 PM, Scott Yoga Mac Flower MacLeod <yogamacflower@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dear Victor, 


Thanks for your reply. I've removed you and Angela from this email thread, which I think you were asking for, while adding Kriya Yogi Ishvara Bob whose birthday is being celebrated tomorrow at the Harbin Domes, and with the following email in the PS to them. 

I added your reply, Victor, here too - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/06/aechmea-fasciata.html - and regarding your interesting sentence vis a vis the potential for extreme longevity genetic drug therapies emerging - 
"while to us the only thing is the research into the never ending and for ever changing nature of our bodily existence…"

I find this riff - http://www.scottmacleod.com/yoganotations.html - with Patanjali's writings (and see the PPS) and your Yoga too liberating for potentially the long term.

Happy explorations into your Yoga inner body (dark! ... it's dark inside us without light in there:) bodyminds in Eftalou Greece in the Hamman too, Yogically, love,  
Scott



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Dear George (Church, Harvard Medical School), Harvard alumni too Yogi Ishvara - Bob Hartley, Yogi Tom (Hess), Ed (Smyth MD), Byron (Hann MD PhD), All, 

Happy upcoming birthday celebration tomorrow Yogi Ishvara Bob Hartley - at the Harbin domes!

George, what form might aging reversal and extreme longevity gene drug doses take (capsules, vaccine injections, etc.?) ... and how might such work for aging reversal of 90 and 80 year old people + ... and with exercise,  eg for higher faster stronger more supple Yoga and  

"For #Olympics? #YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?"

I've added Victor's reply here too - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/06/aechmea-fasciata.html - and regarding his interesting sentence vis a vis the potential for extreme longevity genetic drug therapies emerging - 
"while to us the only thing is the research into the never ending and for ever changing nature of our bodily existence…"

And how might Kriya Yogi Ishvara Bob Hartley, founder of Harbin Hot Springs in its current form since 1972 (aka Heart Consciousness Church) benefit from aging reversal and extreme longevity gene drug doses with Yoga-informed movement or similar? People are celebrating Ishvara Bob Hartley's birthday at the Harbin Domes tomorrow.

George, you talk about longevity here at the ~22 ... minute mark - 
George Church: De-extinction explained, Synthetic biology, Woolly Mammoths and Longevity | 165
https://youtu.be/yNplpykf0B4

So what's the potential, George, scientists, Yogis, all, for us to live in our current bodymind, for example, to 150 years of age, or to the radical 150,000 years of age +?


Yogically, 
Scott 


PPS
The eight limbs of yoga, as outlined in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, are: Yama, Niyama, Asana, Pranayama, Pratyahara, Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi. 
Here's a breakdown of each limb in Sanskrit: 
  • Yama: (Restraints, Moral Disciplines)
  • Niyama: (Observances, Positive Duties)
  • Asana: (Posture)
  • Pranayama: (Breath Control)
  • Pratyahara: (Withdrawal of the Senses)
  • Dharana: (Concentration)
  • Dhyana: (Meditation)
  • Samadhi: (Pure Contemplation, Absorption)





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Dear George (Church, Harvard Medical School), Harvard alumni too Yogi Ishvara - Bob Hartley, Yogi Tom (Hess), Ed (Smyth MD), Byron (Hann MD PhD), All, 

Happy upcoming birthday celebration tomorrow Yogi Ishvara Bob Hartley - at the Harbin domes!

George, what form might aging reversal and extreme longevity gene drug doses take (capsules, vaccine injections, etc.?) ... and how might such work for aging reversal of 90 and 80 year old people + ... and with exercise,  eg for higher faster stronger more supple Yoga and  

"For #Olympics? #YogaGenetics? For performance - higher faster stronger athletics - & #ETHICS?"

I've added Victor's reply here too - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/06/aechmea-fasciata.html - and regarding his interesting sentence vis a vis the potential for extreme longevity genetic drug therapies emerging - 
"while to us the only thing is the research into the never ending and for ever changing nature of our bodily existence…"

And how might Kriya Yogi Ishvara Bob Hartley, founder of Harbin Hot Springs in its current form since 1972 (aka Heart Consciousness Church) benefit from aging reversal and extreme longevity gene drug doses with Yoga-informed movement or similar? People are celebrating Ishvara Bob Hartley's birthday at the Harbin Domes tomorrow.

George, you talk about longevity here at the ~ 22 minute mark - 
'George Church: De-extinction explained, Synthetic biology, Woolly Mammoths and Longevity | 165' (2023)
https://youtu.be/yNplpykf0B4

So what's the potential, George, scientists, Yogis, all, for us to live in our current bodymind, for example, to 150 years of age, or to the radical 150,000 years of age +?


Yogically, 
Scott 






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