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Thursday, August 21, 2025

Kendall Warm Springs dace (Rhinichthys osculus thermalis): Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren Could you please help guide the #OjibweLanguageWUaS wiki school in the #OjibweLanguage @ #MITOCW-centric wiki @WorldUnivAndSch & other #NativeAmericanLanguagesWUaS #WikiSchools -https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Native_American_Languages (from https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages) & even newly as #LLMs & see http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/african-penguin.html ? * @sgkmacleod Languages at WUaS, all, and all 167-175 native American languages + * Added Ojibwe language: https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ojibwe_language to Links' section to - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Native_American_Languages And also added |- |Ojibwe language |Anishinaabemowin To https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages But the Ojibwe language wiki subject at WUaS isn't yet begun, either in English or in Ojibwe or from any other language.

 


Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren Could you please help guide the #OjibweLangWUaS wiki school in the #OjibweLang @WorldUnivAndSch & other #NativeAmericanLanguagesWUaS #WikiSchools -https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Native_American_Languages  (fr https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages) &even newly as #LLMs &see http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/african-penguin.html?


Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren Could you please help guide the #OjibweLangWUaS wiki school in the #OjibweLang @WorldUnivAndSch & other #NativeAmericanLanguagesWUaS #WikiSchools -https://t.co/s8a9yIVqmE (fr https://t.co/DT10G2f7x2) &even newly as #LLMs &see https://t.co/k203ESqzmH? https://t.co/M8gRhCRrse

— Languages-World Univ (@sgkmacleod) August 21, 2025
Languages at WUaS, all, and all 167-175 native American languages +
https://x.com/sgkmacleod/status/1958527236048601202

https://x.com/WUaSPress/status/1958526986739192315

https://x.com/HarbinBook/status/1958527109535568208

https://x.com/scottmacleod/status/1958526899832910121 

https://x.com/Q_YogaMacFlower/status/1958527522829930675

https://x.com/TheOpenBand/status/1958527372933869656





Retweeting 

I’ll be in Minneapolis this weekend with my friend @PeggyFlanagan.

We need more Democrats in the Senate who’ll fight for working families with all they’ve got.

RSVP to join us as we fight for America’s future: ewar.ren/9uu

https://x.com/ewarren/status/1958284310512853260





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Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren Could you please help guide the #OjibweLanguageWUaS wiki school in the #OjibweLanguage @ #MITOCW-centric wiki @WorldUnivAndSch & other #NativeAmericanLanguagesWUaS #WikiSchools -https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Native_American_Languages  (from https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages) & even newly as #LLMs & see http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/african-penguin.html ?


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& see http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/african-penguin.html and search on -

"HOW TO BEGIN a Large Language Model with AI and ML to act as a professor Initially for someone who wants to ..."


regarding how to begin Large Language Models at WUaS and for native American languages ... 




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Added Ojibwe language: https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ojibwe_language to Links' section to - 

https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Native_American_Languages

And also added 

|-
|Ojibwe language
|Anishinaabemowin


To https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages 

But the Ojibwe language wiki subject at WUaS isn't yet begun, either in English or in Ojibwe or from any other language.




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Also, in searching on Ojibwe language, found - 


The Ojibwe language, also known as Anishinaabemowin, is an Indigenous language of the Algonquian family spoken in the Great Lakes region of North America, particularly in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Canada. It is an endangered language with revitalization efforts underway, using resources like the University of Minnesota's Ojibwe People's Dictionary and immersion programs to preserve and teach the language to new generations. The language features unique aspects like the use of double vowels and consonants, and its grammar allows single words to convey complex meanings.
 
Key Characteristics
  • Algonquian Family:
    Ojibwe is part of a larger group of related Indigenous languages. 
  • Dialectal Variation:
    While there are similarities, there are variations in pronunciation and vocabulary among different communities. 
  • Unique Alphabet:
    The Ojibwe alphabet uses a distinct set of letters, including short and long vowels and doubled consonants like "ch" and "sh". 
  • Word Structure:
    A single word can be a full sentence, with meaning conveyed by combining multiple morphemes (meaningful word parts). 
  • Phonology:
    The language uses a system of voiced and unvoiced consonants, with "lenis" (less strong) and "fortis" (stronger) distinctions in many dialects. 
Revitalization Efforts
  • Documentation:
    Efforts are being made to document the language, including the creation of dictionaries and resources like the Ojibwe People's Dictionary. 
  • Education Programs:
    Language immersion programs are a key part of revitalization, where children are taught the language by families and elders. 
  • Community Engagement:
    There are movements to inspire people to speak the language and pass down profound cultural teachings to future generations. 
How to Learn More
  • Universities:
    The University of Minnesota and Michigan State University offer language programs and resources. 
  • Tribal Programs:
    Communities like the Sault Tribe of Chippewa Indians offer opportunities to learn the language and culture. 
  • Online Resources:
    Pimachiowin Aki and YouTube channels provide lessons and information on the language and its culture


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Ojibwe language


Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ojibwe_language
Ojibwemowin, or Anishinaabemowin, is an indigenous language of North America of the Algonquian language family.
  • Ojibwe grammar
  • Ojibwe writing systems
  • Great Lakes Algonquian
  • About the Ojibwe Language


    Ojibwe People's Dictionary
    https://ojibwe.lib.umn.edu › about-ojibwe-language
    It is a Central Algonquian language spoken by the Anishinaabe people throughout much of Canada from Ontario to Manitoba and US border states from Michigan to ...
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    Ojibwe People's Dictionary - University of Minnesota


    Ojibwe People's Dictionary
    https://ojibwe.lib.umn.edu
    Ojibwe is not a single standardized language, but a chain of linked local varieties, grouped into nearly a dozen dialects. Each dialect (and within dialects



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    HOW TO BEGIN a Large Language Model with AI and ML to act as a professor Initially for someone who wants to learn or build community in the Ojibwe language, and with, for example, these resources - 
    https://pimaki.ca/lessons-in-ojibwe-language-that-comes-from-the-land-part-i/

    https://www.saulttribe.com/history-a-culture/our-culture/103-ojibwe-language

    https://lctlpartnership.celta.msu.edu/what-is-anishinaabemowin/

    https://ojibwe.lib.umn.edu/main-entry/anishinaabemowin-ni


    https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/kendall-warm-springs-dace-rhinichthys.html ?



    Based on your request and the resources you provided, here is a comprehensive guide on how to begin building a Large Language Model (LLM) for the Ojibwe language. This is a complex undertaking, but can be broken down into a series of steps that combine machine learning principles with community-based language work.

    1. Define the Scope and Objectives ⚙️

    Before you begin, you must be specific about what you want the model to do. Your goal is to create a "professor" for the Ojibwe language. This implies the model needs to do more than just translate; it must be able to teach. Consider what a human professor does:

    • Generates fluent responses in the language.

    • Understands linguistic rules (grammar, syntax).

    • Provides examples and cultural context.

    • Corrects errors and gives feedback.

    • Answers questions about the language and culture.

    You will likely need to build a small language model (SLM) rather than a massive, general-purpose LLM like GPT-4. SLMs are better suited for low-resource languages as they require less data and computational power, making them more practical for this type of project. They can also be fine-tuned specifically for the nuances of a single language.


    2. Data Collection and Curation 📚

    This is the most critical and challenging step for a low-resource language. LLMs are trained on vast amounts of text, and a major challenge with languages like Ojibwe is the lack of a large digital corpus.

    • Gather Existing Digital Data: You have provided excellent starting points:

      • https://www.saulttribe.com/history-a-culture/our-culture/103-ojibwe-language: This page provides cultural context and some basic vocabulary.

      • https://lctlpartnership.celta.msu.edu/what-is-anishinaabemowin/: This resource offers a linguistic description of the language.

      • https://pimaki.ca/lessons-in-ojibwe-language-that-comes-from-the-land-part-i/: This is a rich source of conversational examples and cultural teachings.

      • https://ojibwe.lib.umn.edu/main-entry/anishinaabemowin-ni: The Ojibwe People's Dictionary is a phenomenal resource. Its searchable format with audio, images, and example sentences is a goldmine for your dataset.

    • Digitize and Transcribe Analog Data: Look for physical books, academic papers, and audio recordings. You will need to transcribe these materials to convert them into a digital text format that your model can read.

    • Collaborate with Speakers: The most valuable data will come directly from fluent speakers. Work with elders, linguists, and community members to create new content. This could include transcribing oral histories, creating new written lessons, or having conversations that you record and transcribe. This ensures linguistic and cultural accuracy.


    3. Model Training and Fine-Tuning 💻

    Once you have your dataset, you can begin the technical process of building the model. This involves machine learning principles and may require a strong foundation in Python and deep learning frameworks like PyTorch or TensorFlow.

    • Pre-training (Optional but Recommended): You don't need to build the model completely from scratch. You can take a pre-existing multilingual LLM (one that has been trained on many languages) and then fine-tune it using your Ojibwe dataset. This process, known as transfer learning, allows the model to leverage its existing knowledge of linguistic structure and apply it to the new language.

    • Develop a Specialized Tokenizer: A tokenizer breaks down words into smaller pieces called "tokens." English tokenizers are not effective for a verb-based language like Ojibwe. You will need to create a custom tokenizer that understands the prefixes and suffixes of the Ojibwe language, which are essential to its meaning.

    • Instruction Fine-Tuning: This is the process of training the model to act as a "professor." You will create a new dataset of questions and answers, where the questions are about the Ojibwe language and the answers are the correct, helpful responses a professor would give. For example:

      • Question: "How do you say 'he is walking'?"

      • Answer: "The word is bimose. The root bimo- means 'walk' and the suffix -se means 'in a specific way or location'."

    • Community-Led Development: As seen in projects like SkoBots and the Ojibwe Rosetta Stone, community involvement is key. Involve native speakers throughout the process to ensure the model is respectful, culturally appropriate, and accurate.


    4. Deployment and Community Building 🤝

    The final step is to make your model accessible to others and to use it to foster a learning community.

    • Create a User-Friendly Interface: Your model needs to be easy to interact with. This could be a website, a chatbot, or an app where users can ask questions and get responses in Ojibwe.

    • Integrate with Learning Tools: Incorporate features like a dictionary, grammar guides, and pronunciation practice. Pimsleur's AI voice recognition is a great example of how technology can enhance language learning.

    • Build a Community: Use the model as a tool to bring people together. The model is a supplement, not a replacement, for human interaction. Encourage users to meet up, practice with each other, and share their experiences to build a vibrant Ojibwe-speaking community



    https://g.co/gemini/share/8750a145301b 




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    Further, 

    Asked #GeminiAIreOjibweLanguage re "Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren re #OjibweLangWUaS wiki school in #OjibweLang @WorldUnivAndSch
    "HOW TO BEGIN a #LargeLanguageModel for people who want to learn or build community in #OjibweLang -https://g.co/gemini/share/8750a145301b
    -https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2025/08/kendall-warm-springs-dace-rhinichthys.html ~

    Asked #GeminiAIreOjibweLanguage re "Dear @PeggyFlanagan @EWarren re #OjibweLangWUaS wiki school in #OjibweLang @WorldUnivAndSch
    "HOW TO BEGIN a #LargeLanguageModel for people who want to learn or build community in #OjibweLang -https://t.co/QjdnXCshWK
    -https://t.co/ILVRm36iM4 ~ https://t.co/EEBXjEgdSo

    — WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) August 22, 2025

    https://x.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1958923233882960233

    https://x.com/sgkmacleod/status/1958924085637091806

    https://x.com/WUaSPress/status/1958924312934797819

    https://x.com/HarbinBook/status/1958926400985211252

    https://x.com/Q_YogaMacFlower/status/1958924480430186802

    https://x.com/scottmacleod/status/1958926958391402918

    https://x.com/TheOpenBand/status/1958928090949898737





    Retweeting -
     
    I’ll be in Minneapolis this weekend with my friend @PeggyFlanagan.

    We need more Democrats in the Senate who’ll fight for working families with all they’ve got.

    RSVP to join us as we fight for America’s future: ewar.ren/9uu

    https://x.com/ewarren/status/1958284310512853260







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    https://www.fws.gov/media/kendall-warm-springs-dace-rhinichthys-osculus-thermalis






    https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1459333-Rhinichthys-osculus-thermalis



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendall_Warm_Springs_dace




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