ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy and realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs / realistic virtual earth, for actual< >virtual and physical< >digital ethnographic projects
[Medianthro] digital / online ethnography - collecting and sharing resources
Hi Philipp, and MediaAnthro,
Thanks so much for this, in this time of 'sheltering at home' here too in northern California, due to the novel coronavirus COVID-19 (SARS CoV2) pandemic. I hope all of you are doing well too.
Brainstorming-wise, and in terms of a new approach to digital ethnographic method with resources, visit the Harbin Hot Springs' Gate in Google Street View here - http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg (accessible from https://twitter.com/HarbinBook and http://bit.ly/HarbinBook) and add resources to Google Street View. For example, I added a photo you'll see here of the Harbin Gate House some years ago. But you could eventually add text in the sidebar, in addition to video (currently, I think). Harbin Hot Springs is my actual< >virtual, physical< >digital ethnographic field site, about which this book is about - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook. One could practice ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy anywhere in the world, and potentially in Google Street View too. Avatars will come, and realistic avatars too re Neons, or artificial humans, as one example of many. And I hope we'll all, as anthropologists, be able to visit virtual Harbin Hot Springs itself, as it grows, soak in the pools there from home, and practice participant observation by 'wiki'-adding to a single realistic 'virtual world' / earth and as anthropological interpretation of 'peoples' ('ethno'), as avatar bots too, (which is one view of ethnographic practice per Cerwonka and Malkki), via writing ('graphy'). I'm calling this new anthropological method 'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy,' but haven't yet written an academic paper about this. Am thinking, conceptually, in terms of Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / Maps / Earth / TensorFlow / Translate with avatar bots, of humans and other species, and which, like Second Life, is group buildable and has avatars which communicate, but am heading toward realism (and for the practice of medicine at WUaS too).
Here's the 'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy' reference I've added to the resources' lists you shared (but am not quite sure how to cite this):
MacLeod, Scott GK. (2020). Ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy. See, too: MacLeod, “Naked Harbin Ethnography” - http://www.scottmacleod.com/research-group.html. (Foreword by Nelson H.H. Graburn). http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html. Berkeley, CA: Academic Press at World University and School.
And here's a related book I've added to these resources' lists:
MacLeod, Scott GK. (2016). Naked Harbin Ethnography: Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin. (Foreword by Nelson H.H. Graburn). http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html. Berkeley, CA: Academic Press at World University and School.
Also, as the founder of CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World University and School, here are some related wiki subject pages in English (so far) for open teaching and learning, and with much MIT OpenCourseWare anthropology, and which will be too in Wikidata's ~300 languages eventually (since WUaS donated itself to Wikidata in 2015 for co-development, and received the WUaS Miraheze MediaWiki in 2017, but they're not yet interoperable):
Ethnography -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ethnography
Anthropology -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Anthropology
Virtual Worlds -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Virtual_Worlds
Visual Anthropology -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Visual_Anthropology
Ethnomusicology -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ethnomusicology
Ethnographic Film -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ethnographic_Film
Ethnographic Fiction -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Ethnographic_Fiction
Subjects -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects
(WUaS is seeking even to develop Archaeological robotics first with Lego Robotics' kits in Google Street View with Brick Street View - where 'brick' here refers to a Lego brick - as these develop for archaeology ... https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Archaeology - in a single realistic virtual earth for archaeology - https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForArchaeology?src=hashtag_click and you'll find an image here -
Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' w/i five years enabling family historians to search for burial records & locations in an online database -https://t.co/4xn3jpS377 #RealisticVirtualEarth #RealisticVirtualEarthForArchaeology #RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics ~— Open Band (Berkeley) (@TheOpenBand) March 5, 2020
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1235357771744169985?s=20. And MIT itself doesn't have an archaeology department, and regarding digital archaeology).
As we shelter in, am seeking for all of us to be able to visit Harbin Hot Springs virtually and soak, as well as walk all over the earth in a Google Street View digital mask, as a kind of tourism even, and potentially to practice ethnography as well. (The idea in this humorous very brief story here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/high-sierra-snow-pack-heres-beginning.html - is even to be able to hike the PCT in Google Street View with time slider from home in a digital mask on an elliptical machine (or treadmill) for stress reduction and exercise in these challenging novel coronavirus times. (Search on 'treadmill' here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/12/ceres-dwarf-planet-thanks-astroedlu-for.html - and here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/anagallis-arvensis-tour-us-national.html - for example, and indead to walk all over earth in a digital mask in a SINGLE realistic virtual earth in something like Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / MAPS /Earth / Tensorflow / Translate and with avatar bots+)).
Have added these resources to -
Resources on online ethnography
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OrVaVQi_UPA54eUX8u-mVbUZpUHsNxG5VCfGDRF-Hu0/edit?usp=sharing
LSE Digital Ethnography Collective Reading List SHARED DOC - March 2020
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RaFQdQFdijQs6eQ_UlZRBuF30oD80uvisDyJXFjwuzw/edit?usp=sharing
Scott
- https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy
https://www.amazon.com/author/scottmacleodworlduniversity
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- Scott MacLeod - Founder, President & Professor
- World University and School
- http://worlduniversityandschool.org
- 415 480 4577
- http://scottmacleod.com
- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization.
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[Medianthro] Online teaching
to Mark, Philipp, d.h.slater, medianthro
In addition to planning to build out a #RealisticVirtualHarbin and #RealisticVirtualEarth for anthropology (see:
The latest The MIT OpenCourseWare Daily! https://t.co/MCTQShwIvd Thanks to @JJtheTutor @MrValencia24 @scottmacleod #realisticvirtualharbin #realisticvirtualearth— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 20, 2020
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1240814569058193410?s=20 - which is WUaS's daily MIT OCW Daily Newspaper in Paper.li which also lists the MIT OCW licensing clarifications) in something like Google Street View with time slider for classes, MIT OCW-centric wiki World University and School is also in Google for Education / G Suite for Education (and welcomes you to become a 'Universitian' to have access to this great Google platform with Google Meet video conferencing which livestreams to Youtube recordings). Perhaps you can also develop World Univ & Sch in your native language and its country - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States - each to become a major online university.
To give you an idea of how you could use WUaS Google for Education, here's an example of 'WUaS LiveStream channel #2' thanks to Peter Bothe in Germany (for his skillful and fast creation of a second new WUaS Livestream channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdURAADdLc9ctxnbismtXzQ/ /live associated with a 2nd LightStream platform channel for broadcasting too) - and with WUaS's Google for Education platform associated with his new email address there - livestream@worlduniversityandschool.org ! And thanks to Peter Bothe for making this foray into using WUaS Google for Education!
In addition, WUaS is licensing with CA's BPPE to offer online MIT OCW-centric free-to-students' online Bachelor and Ph.D. degrees in English (and with time to offer Bachelor, Ph.D., law, M.D. and I.B high school degrees online, and eventually in each of ~200 countries' official / main languages), much in Google for Education with MIT OCW in its 4 languages, in Wikidata structured knowledge database in its Wikipedia's 300 languages, and for home degrees.
These are some of the ways World Univ & Sch and I are developing online teaching. (See, too http://worlduniversityandschool.org/InfoTechNetworkSocGlobalUniv.html). Seminar (via conference method of teaching and learning - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Conference_Method_of_Teaching_and_Learning) and livestream talks/lectures (with video, group text - so 2-3 channels of communications) are modalities too.
Sincerely, Scott
MAIN WUaS livestream channel -
https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldUnivandSch /live - associated with worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com (as umbrella account and for the IMPRESSIVE G Suite for Education / Google for Education which WUaS is in for free).
World University's open monthly business meeting Agenda for March 21, 2020:
- https://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/2020/03/march-21-2020-wuas-open-monthly.html
- https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/dryas-octopetala-march-21-2020-wuas.html
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/
https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/
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- Scott MacLeod - Founder, President & Professor
- World University and School
- http://worlduniversityandschool.org
- 415 480 4577
- http://scottmacleod.com
- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization.
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Harvard's 369th commencement will be online this year thanks to the novel coronavirus pandemic
Alden, Dick, Lucy, Ma, Ann,
Harvard's 369th commencement will be online this year thanks to the novel coronavirus pandemic - "Harvard postpones commencement amid coronavirus pandemic, plans online event May 28" https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/20/nation/harvard-holding-online-commencement-may-28-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/. What an amazing opportunity for the big academic project I'm working on to learn from - e.g. how to do online graduations - and potentially even collaborate with Harvard and MIT in these regards, with all this online creativity and productivity as they both take all of their classes online. What a windfall for learning from!
Here's Harvard Professor of Economics' Greg Mankiw's "Thoughts on the Pandemic" - http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2020/03/thoughts-on-pandemic.html.
And the Pew Research Center - "U.S. public sees multiple threats from the coronavirus – and concerns are growing" - https://mailchi.mp/pewresearch.org/americans-see-multiple-threats-from-the-coronavirus?e=4188253c1e I think the picture speaks louder than words.
And is this the beginning of online hospitals in Google's / Verily's Project Baseline with information technologies ? ....
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening -
https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20
https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1241176851864637441?s=20
https://www.projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19/
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County
@WorldUnivAndSch's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital!
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening - https://t.co/JUuzJhIetwhttps://t.co/M0lM6IfkQMhttps://t.co/FyeP4hrgb2— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 21, 2020
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County@WorldUnivAndSch's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz!
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241228650831171585?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1241380788857257985?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1241381028087791616?s=20
(which I recently added to this Agenda from today - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/dryas-octopetala-march-21-2020-wuas.html)
And with so many people in this country sheltering at home, I bet people are reading newly many many books, and learning in other ways too!
Thoughts about 2020 November? A Biden / Warren ticket???
Fondly, Scotty
For your reading interest ...
... mostly in the 'genes' label in my blog, here are 12 recent blog posts regarding the novel corona virus COVID-19 (SARS CoV2) pandemic ... check out the questions re "radical act"?, 'pan'-demic? and "archery contest in Wuhan, China" ... among other inquiries ... ?
High Sierra snow pack - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/high-sierra-snow-pack-heres-beginning.html
Mandrill - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/mandrill-current-hypothesis-and-line-of.html
Asteroid - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/asteroid-actual-virtual-blockchain.html
Mirabilis jalapa - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/mirabilis-jalapa-greece-world-univ-sch.html
Courtship display - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/courtship-display-heartsong-and-all.html
Caterpillar - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/caterpillar-teaching-intelligence-how.html
Bizet sheep - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/bizet-sheep-wisdom-worldunivandsch.html
Sexual selection in birds - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/sexual-selection-in-birds-thanks-to.html
Rabies - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/rabies-dramatic-it-seems-1-as-if-some.html
Glass frog - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/glass-frog-cochranella-regarding-this.html
Coronavirus - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/coronavirus-from-richard-dawkins-heres.html
Teak - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/teak-24-feb-2020-world-univ-sch-q-and.html ~
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Sunday, March 22, 2020
California COVID-19 risk screening and testing
If you are interested in getting tested for COVID-19, complete an online screener based on guidelines from public health officials. Based on the responses and testing appointment availability, you will learn whether you qualify for testing through this program at this time.
We are working to rapidly expand testing in every way that we can; please check back soon as we add more testing sites and may expand eligibility criteria.
Currently offering COVID-19 testing in California:
- Santa Clara County, CA
- San Mateo County, CA
- Within 50 miles of the city of Riverside, CA
Who's eligible to get screened for COVID-19 testing?
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening -
https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20
https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1241176851864637441?s=20
https://projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19/
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County
@WorldUnivAndSch 's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital!
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening - https://t.co/JUuzJhIetwhttps://t.co/M0lM6IfkQMhttps://t.co/FyeP4hrgb2— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 21, 2020
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County@WorldUnivAndSch's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz!
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241228650831171585?s=20
Working with the governor's office to screen for Covid 19. @verilylifesci
Working with the governor's office to screen for Covid 19. @verilylifesci https://t.co/efLLeVY3AO— Robert M Califf (@califf001) March 21, 2020
https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20
The Baseline #COVID19 Program is scheduling tests for people at high-risk of infection in San Mateo & Santa Clara counties.
Please take the screener at https://bit.ly/2QxLxMR and learn about additional sites coming online by checking @verilylifesci
The Baseline #COVID19 Program is scheduling tests for people at high-risk of infection in San Mateo & Santa Clara counties.— Office of the Governor of California (@CAgovernor) March 21, 2020
Please take the screener at https://t.co/yUzyw2lk3n and learn about additional sites coming online by checking @verilylifesci.
https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1241176851864637441?s=20
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NEW: As a wave of at-home tests for coronavirus are coming on the market, federal regulators issued stern guidance saying that *none of them* has yet been officially approved for use. (1/3)
NEW: As a wave of at-home tests for coronavirus are coming on the market, federal regulators issued stern guidance saying that *none of them* has yet been officially approved for use. (1/3) https://t.co/m9uJfVN3UE— Erin Brodwin⚡ (@erbrod) March 21, 2020
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Hospital at World University and School >
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital
(Again,
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening -
https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20…
https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1241176851864637441?s=20…
https://projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19/
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County
@WorldUnivAndSch's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital!
Great: Project Baseline and #covid19 screening - https://t.co/JUuzJhIetwhttps://t.co/M0lM6IfkQMhttps://t.co/FyeP4hrgb2— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 21, 2020
in Santa Clara County
San Mateo County@WorldUnivAndSch's online Med Schs & online teaching hospitals seek to facilitate such testing https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz!
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241228650831171585?s=20)
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Plan for testing for all biological agents, viral bacterial (re fire drill in time of biological weapons)? Sequence whole GENOME in drive-thru test centers? All 320 million Americans, from home >#AvatarBotElectornicMedicalRecords in #ProjectBaseline >https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital ?
Plan for testing for all biological agents, viral & bacterial (re fire drill in time of biological weapons)? Sequence whole GENOME in drive-thru test centers? All 320 million Americans, from home >#AvatarBotElectornicMedicalRecords in #ProjectBaseline >https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz ?— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 22, 2020
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241537848538349568?s=20
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Sequence whole GENOME in drive-thru test centers? All 320 million Americans, & from home too? https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20
https://twitter.com/erbrod/status/1241475234894467073?s=20
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241228650831171585?s=20 re all viruses+ #AvatarBotElectornicMedicalRecords in https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital >#RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics?
Sequence whole GENOME in drive-thru test centers? All 320 million Americans, & from home too? https://t.co/JUuzJhIetwhttps://t.co/VFQpDDDqInhttps://t.co/FhGcoWsciD re all viruses+ #AvatarBotElectornicMedicalRecords in https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz >#RealisticVirtualEarthForGenetics?— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 22, 2020
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241538951116017665?s=20
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Is there an App for #COVID19 genetic testing yet? How soon? Will we be able to give saliva sample to #SmartPhone, & transmit results to #ProjectBaseline from home? https://twitter.com/califf001/status/1241179487972159488?s=20
>https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1241176851864637441?s=20 >https://twitter.com/erbrod/status/1241475234894467073?s=20
>https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital @WorldUnivAndSch?
Is there an App for #COVID19 genetic testing yet? How soon? Will we be able to give saliva sample to #SmartPhone, & transmit results to #ProjectBaseline from home? https://t.co/JUuzJhIetw— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 22, 2020
>https://t.co/M0lM6IfkQM >https://t.co/VFQpDDDqIn
>https://t.co/SpuwGvCarz @WorldUnivAndSch? https://t.co/5yqTxbJVfn
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1241818042876579845?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1241817813993455617?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1241818664648601600?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1241819171505070085?s=20
Is there an App for #COVID19 genetic testing yet? How soon? Will we be able to give saliva sample to #SmartPhone, & transmit results to #ProjectBaseline from home? https://t.co/T7BV77ufBJ— WUaSPress (@WUaSPress) March 22, 2020
>https://t.co/k3eYzQNqRC >https://t.co/LKnYXPhpca
>https://t.co/3jZ7NxR213 @WorldUnivAndSch?
https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1241821298663116800?s=20
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“14 types of COVID-19 testing kits from China have received EU CE approval to export. Zero approved by FDA as of 18 March”
Who knew? So called “socialist” countries are better at efficient bureaucracy than “regulation-slashing Republicans” in US.
“14 types of COVID-19 testing kits from China have received EU CE approval to export. Zero approved by FDA as of 18 March”— Lessig (@lessig) March 22, 2020
Who knew? So called “socialist” countries are better at efficient bureaucracy than “regulation-slashing Republicans” in US. https://t.co/ENsoYE7R4i
https://twitter.com/lessig/status/1241805888761081856?s=20
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Internet MEDIA is reshaping SOCIETY in ~200 countries due to 1) novel #coronavirus MEME (replicating cultural unit) & 2) #COVID19 (SARS CoV2) GENEs - & new SPACE is opening too for @WorldUnivAndSch's matriculating students & WIKIs >COVID19 (SARS CoV2) GENES' TEST from computers?
Internet MEDIA is reshaping SOCIETY in ~200 countries due to 1) novel #coronavirus MEME (replicating cultural unit) & 2) #COVID19 (SARS CoV2) GENEs - & new SPACE is opening too for @WorldUnivAndSch's matriculating students & WIKIs >COVID19 (SARS CoV2) GENES' TEST from computers? https://t.co/j3FvBASCY5— Languages-World Univ (@sgkmacleod) March 22, 2020
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241765123804393472?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1241765583810527234?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1241766025936302081?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1241769555598299137?s=20
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Will US federal law come to play a much bigger role in California than it has, & regarding the novel #coronavirus pandemic, testing for #Covid19 genes, & WITH a Google #ProjectBaseline Covid19 SCREENING App https://www.projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19/ > http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/desert-quandong-medianthro-digital.html?m=0 eg re scofflaws too?
Will US federal law come to play a much bigger role in California than it has, & regarding the novel #coronavirus pandemic, testing for #Covid19 genes, & WITH a Google #ProjectBaseline Covid19 SCREENING App https://t.co/FyeP4hrgb2 > https://t.co/Ixo5rB3x3T eg re scofflaws too?— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) March 22, 2020
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1241861141296373760?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1241862165105004544?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1241862585969868800?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1241864492876619776?s=20
https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1241866529542533121?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1241866096606457857?s=20
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Dick, Alden, Lucy, Ma, Ann,
How are you, Dick, Lucy, Alden, Ma, and Ann doing? (Ann in eastern Oregon texted recently that she was holing up, and that 4 calves had been born recently, with 3 more on the way:)
Fondly, Scott
PS
Will add this, and have added many further good ideas here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/03/desert-quandong-medianthro-digital.html - after my email to you from yesterday.
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