Sea Foam: Wikidata's 3rd Birthday! Making a present of CC wiki World University and School, First wikidata-generated list article Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Farsi Wikipedia and Portuguese Wikipedia, engaging MIT OCW Translated courses - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ and other Wikidata items, See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_OpenCourseWare, To http://worlduniversityandschool.org Thank you!, CC MIT OCW seems to meet Wikidata's 2nd notability requirement here - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability - but I may be misreading this

Dear Markus, Lydia and Jane, 

I'd like to prepare to make a present of CC wiki World University and School, which is like Wikipedia in 288 languages with best STEM CC OpenCourseWare (e.g. accrediting on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC) and is planned in all 7,941+ languages and 257+ countries, for CC Wikidata's third birthday. 

By doing this, I hope our "babies" of Wikidata and World University and School might grow up a little further together and learn from each other conversationally - and especially coding-wise . 

And I hope that in preparing this present that CC World University and School can become a stellar growth story for CC Wikidata/Wikipedia as well. 

Before making this present however, I'd like to ask if we could communicate further about ways in which World University and School might be further developed within the broader Wikidata community and how best to do this? 

Thank you, and happy birthday, Wikidata!

Best regards, 

Scott

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_WorldUnivAndSch

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Hi Jane (and Lydia and Markus),

Thanks for your great guidance by example, Jane!

Learning from your recent project of publishing your "first wikidata-generated list article in English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia here" -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paintings_by_Jacob_van_Ruisdael (linked here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_van_Ruisdael) - and engaging MIT OCW Translated courses - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ and other Wikidata items, I think I'd like to create a list of CC MIT OpenCourseWare in CC Wikipedia linked to this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_OpenCourseWare. I think I'd also like to create this list for all 7 languages at MIT OCW Translated courses in all 7 Wikipedia related languages, and eventually anticipate linked open data and inter-lingual questions and translation and even an universal translator.

I think I'll start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table/Introduction_to_tables unless you would suggest another approach to building tables in Wikipedia. 

How best to fill the rows by pulling MIT OCW data from the list items on Wikidata (I just briefly searched http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm and only found this in Wikidata - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1637597)? Do you have a tutorial page you could suggest please as a good starting place for this or similar please? 

My intention is also to make it easier to enjoy MIT OCW in its 7 languages, and I'm going to try to produce something specifically in Wikipedia which can become the basis for this, and then perhaps explore building the 720 WUaS templates, wiki pages, and related resources I've developed in Wikia around this.

Looking for Wikidatans/Wikipedians who know Mandarin Chinese, Korean, Spanish, Turkish, Farsi and Portuguese http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ !

Thank you! 

Scott

http://worlduniversityandschool.org

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New Wikipedia page "List of MIT OpenCourseWare" -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MIT_OpenCourseWare

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Hi Jane, (and Lydia and Markus) 

Based on the some of the code from the page of paintings you just published (which is beautiful Jane!), here's the beginning of the new Wikipedia page "List of MIT OpenCourseWare" -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MIT_OpenCourseWare - but I'm not sure how best to "fill the rows by pulling MIT OCW data from the list items on Wikidata". As I wrote earlier I only found this in Wikidata Q-Item for MIT OCW - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1637597 - and would probably need to fill this in a little as well with current MIT OCW (http://ocw.mit.edu/) and MIT OCW Translated Courses (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/), but there may be other easier ways. What might you possibly suggest for this please?

Scott

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Scott,

That page had no data in it and has been nominated for deletion. I am not sure you are getting me. I did not create the list table, and that was precisely my point. Check the page history to see how three paintings I added as items to Wikidata yesterday became row items in the list in 6 languages automagically today.

I think you are full of ideas, but until you can express them in wiki terms I am afraid I can't help you. It is not clear to me that a list of courses offered by MIT would be notable, but like I said, I don't work on educational topics, only arts pages. You may want to talk to somebody with lots of edits in the educational area on courseware to answer how you get around the notability issue. Obviously empty pages will be deleted no matter what the topic of course.

Jan

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Dear L, 

I got this email back from Jane this morning, and was a little disheartened at first, but wonder now how to get in touch at Wikidata and "talk to somebody with lots of edits in the educational area on courseware to answer how you get around the notability issue." 

The language is interesting. I need to understand CC Wikipedia/Wikidata's language of notability re the far-reaching CC MIT OCW in 7 languages. 

I was hoping that having started the page "List of MIT OpenCourseWare" paralleling her paintings' page, she could guide me to the next steps. A little confused by the tone, but in the confusion, and this page deletion, think there is still an opening to develop MIT OCW in Wikidata. 

Sincerely, 

Scott

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Dear Jane (and L, M and L), 

Thanks for your email. Yes, I see now in your page's history "This list is generated automatically from [[Wikidata]] and is sorted by date of creation. To make changes to the list, see the talk page" - beautiful automagicality.

Again, I'd like to prepare to make a present of CC wiki World University and School to CC Wikidata for its 3rd birthday so wonder how best to "talk to somebody with lots of edits in the educational area on courseware to answer how you get around the notability issue" per your suggestion. I may reach out to Len Tower in Somerville, MA, who has edited the Wikipedia MIT OCW page a fair amount itself unless you would possibly suggest someone else with lots of edits educational area on courseware to talk to?

I need to learn to express my ideas in wiki terms, and come to understand CC Wikipedia/Wikidata's language of notability re CC MIT OCW in 7 languages (and CC Yale OYC as well). CC MIT OCW seems to meet Wikidata's 2nd notability requirement here - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability - but I may be misreading this. 

Wikidata is an impressive and growing organization, and Wikidata is an amazing development in general, and I'm a relative newby to all of this - and am seeking to learn some Wikidata ways. Thank you. 

Sincerely, 

Scott

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