Saturday, June 3, 2017

Mitchell River National Park (Victoria): "Google Hangouts into Wikidata" for regeneration of all 8k Langs re WUaS wiki schools eg Scottish_Gaelic_language … Cromarty_dialect_of_Scots_language, In what ways could World University and School help focus this? WUaS would seek to create these processes in Wikidata and explicitly for (all) minority languages, Native American languages - Hupa or Hoopa language learning, "I'd like to learn to speak and write the Hupa language" in Google Search ... How could World University and School wiki-facilitate this in Google Hangouts and in wiki schools, hiring Hupa peoples and graduate students to teach Hupa?

"Google Hangouts into Wikidata" for regeneration of all 8k Langs re WUaS wiki schools e.g.

Scottish Gaelic language wiki school, planned in Scots' Gaelic -

Cromarty dialect of Scots Langauge wiki school, planned in Cromarty (and eventually with avatar bots even) ... … -

Thanks, Ewan, Delyth, GerardM and All,

Having studied at the University of Edinburgh in the School of Celtic and Scottish Studies, and being familiar with its Professor of Gaelic Wilson McLeod's ( - among so many others) focus on regenerating Scots' Gaelic - "energy centers" or schools in cities are one successful approach - I'm curious how to focus Wikidata's structured knowledge in 358 languages to support the generation of all its smallest languages (and indeed all 7,099 living languages re WUaS). In this vein, would there be a way to plan for connecting linguists and anthropologists studying among native speakers (of one language in multiple locations) and all conversing, conceptually in Google group video Hangouts  / Youtube, and then turn this speech into text, and then wiki-structuring such data in the smallest languages in Wikidata?

Am heading from the SF Bay Area to northern California next week (to a Reed College gathering) to visit a friend who will work on the Hupa Indian reservation in the autumn, and also to Yakima speaking areas in Washington state after this, and would love (on behalf of World University and School too, which donated WUaS to Wikidata in October 2017) to create, conceptually, "Google Hangouts' speech into Wikidata" information structures for regeneration of Celtic (e.g. re these WUaS wiki schools - and - in the main Languages' wiki page at WUaS - - planned for all 7,099), and all indigenous, and minority languages.

Will there be a focus at this Celtic Knot conference on this, by any chance? Is there a focus on this already at Wikidata (or Wikimedia)? In what ways could World University and School help focus this? WUaS would seek to create these processes in Wikidata and explicitly for (all) minority languages.


For me it is simple; I have written an outline for a Wikipedia class [1]. That helps by writing stubs when there is not much there. Similarly you can take any subject found in an newspaper, decide if it is important enough and add items or add labels in Wikidata. Almost any article in a newspaper has things that are of value if only the neighbourhood of a place. I would seek the subjects in Reasonator. When an item is found I would have students add labels.

When used in context with newspapers, I would first do Wikipedia and only then add Wikidata.

When it is part of a computing class, I would have them construct sentences based on the present values. The point is not beautiful software but having students consider relations in their language.

NB for those who object because of a lack of citations.. Citations become relevant once you have reached a certain threshold. Please do remember that English Wikipedia in its infancy did not have the insistence on sources either. Given the wealth of factoids known in Wikidata typically this can serve as a template for new articles because the statements in Wikidata typically have a well sourced origin.



GerardM, and All,

Building on your approach, and concerning Celtic Knot, and the Celtic languages/WUaS wiki schools, for example, here - and (in the main Languages' wiki page at WUaS - - planned for all 7,099), with WUaS focusing particularly on all indigenous, and minority languages, these wiki schools could become like Wikipedia pages (after WUaS begins to develop newly in Wikidata/Mediawiki), and people could wiki-add new sections for new items-into-Wikidata-from-Wikipedia (the idea you suggest), beyond the Newspapers' example, for which there is already a section on every WUaS Subject page. These language wiki schools could be further designed for the "Wikipedia class" format you suggest. The "Google Hangouts' speech/text into Wikidata" step would come later (at WUaS) and as Wikidata grows.




[Wikidata] Celtic Knot: Wikipedia Language Conference - Booking closes 27 June

Dear colleagues,
We need to talk about how minority languages are supported right now.
The Celtic Knot Conference 2017 is the first Wikipedia Language conference focusing on how technology supports Celtic & Indigenous Languages.
It takes place at the University of Edinburgh Business School on Thursday 6th July 2017.
Booking closes 27 June 2017 so don't delayAll welcome.
Watch this 3 minute video if you’d like to know more.
The main objective for Celtic Knot 2017 is the coming together of those working to support Celtic and Indigenous languages in the same room at same time; strengthening the bonds into a 'knot' and leading into action. We welcome diverse attendees ranging from Wikimedians, linguists, educators, researchers, information professionals, media professionals, translators, learning technologists and more coming together to share good practice and find fruitful new collaborations to support language communities as a result of the event.
Keynote speakers
Confirmed speakers also include:
  • Susan Ross – Gaelic Wikipedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland on making the Uicipeid a hub for online Gaelic knowledge.
  • Dr. Sharon Arbuthnot - Queen's University, Belfast. Presenting on the AHRC-funded eDIL project (Irish Language dictionary) on Wednesday 5th July.
  • Gareth Morlais – the Welsh Language Unit, Welsh Government.  Gareth will speak about how mapping how much importance major companies (Google, Twitter, Apple) attach to creative activity on Wikipedia led to the Welsh Government helping to fund two Welsh-language Wikipedia initiatives.
  • Delyth Prys – Head of the Language Technologies Unit, Bangor University, will speak on Welsh/Celtic speech technology and why text-to-speech and speech recognition are becoming increasingly important in our digital world.
  • Àlex Hinojo – Executive Director, Amical Wikimedia on the Catalan language project.
  • Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga – Developing the Basque Wikipedia: From corpus expansion to outreach.
  • Astrid Carlsen – Executive Director, Wikimedia Norge speaking on Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk and building a project to revitalize the Northern Sami Wikipedia.
  • Robin Owain – Wales Manager, Wikimedia UK, speaking on recent developments supporting the Welsh language community.
  • Mina Theofilatou  presenting on The Kefalonian Dialect in Wiktionary and how Wikitherapy addresses social equality in open-source language projects.
  • Duncan Brown - Llên Natur, presenting on ‘Y BYWIADUR: the dictionary of life’.
  • Ilario Valdelli - Wikimedia Switzerland, speaking on the Digital Library in Romansch and the new initiatives to map the archeological sites connected with Celtic culture in the Alps.
  • Subhashish Panigrahi presenting on Kathabhidhana, an open toolkit for anyone to record their language in a human and machine readable form.
To find out more about the conference themes and how to book your place to join us then please visit theCeltic Knot page.
It promises to be a great event – including a panel on the Politics of Language Online, excellent papers, workshops and discussion spaces. Please feel free to forward this event to interested colleagues in your network.
Very best regards,
Ewan McAndrew
Wikimedian in Residence


Kai texts me a bunch of photos from a visit to Reed College about 10 days ago ... pictures of the Reed Canyon, a natural area and body of water in the middle of campus, part of Reed's environmental ethos ... which I receive in Canyon, California ...


Cool Kai - hi Reed! - was just thinking about you ... will you still be at Reed from June 7-11?

Were we in Plant Evolution together? :)) ... almost feel like I'm in the Canyon with your photos!


I wish I had taken that class...I love the canyon and just tried to take pics that reflect that feeling


Early morning walk?


I should have said visited read. This was about a week and a half ago and it was an afternoon walk afternoon/evening.

My morning walk this morning was in Arcata redwoods


:) ... did you ever go wading/swimming in the Reed Canyon? (I haven't yet :) ... would need some big ol fisherman's waders ...


I'm moving out to the Klamath River and going to work on the hoop a reservation


Wow ... big change ... can I come up and visit you please on 6/6 on the way up to Reed and befire you head to the Klamath River? (Which might be in a while anyway!

Is there a hoop a language spoken still?


I'm still teaching school and my house is all in disarray because it's being packed up but yes I would love to see you and if you need to spend the night I have an extra bedroom


Athabascan, for example ? Wow, thankfully thank you! - are you going to write too a Hupa social anthropology book? :) would be so cool ... blog might be less daunting!

Berkeley's Kroeber knew the hoop a per Wikipedia ... and he estimated the 1770 population as 1000 ... (Harbin was estimating 150-180  Harbin residents in early 2000s and I'd estimate that busy summer weekends brought in a 1000 visitors/guests but there's data for this - although not east to get a hold of ... :) Are you going to be teaching on the hoop a reservation wonderful Kai?


Yes. Still in special education. Seems like a great group of educators.


:) ... language preservation and generation! ! !

Maybe Kai will do an anthropology PhD at WUaS (on the Hupa language in northern California). She moved fairly recently from the Bay Area to be a special education teacher in Arcata and she'll move soon again to teach this fall on the Hupa reservation living on the Klamath river. Kai?



"Learning the Hupa language"

"I'd like to learn to speak and write the Hupa language" in Google Search ...

How could World University and School wiki-facilitate this in Google Hangouts and in wiki schools, hiring Hupa peoples and graduate students to teach Hupa?

You could begin a Hoopa language wiki school in Hoopa here and now -



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