Friday, May 4, 2018

Waratah: Developments in "Your new Miraheze wiki: World University and School Wiki"


Hi Tim, Katherine, Lydia and Voidwalker (Denny, Markus and Magnus and All),

Katherine, thanks again to you and the panel for the vision in this video from Wikimania in 2017 - "Wikimedia 2030" https://youtu.be/Gdr2F8aB9y0 - and for talking about 7000 languages at about 44 minute mark (Anasuya Sengupta). (See, too: http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/11/xerophyte-five-technologies-that-will.html and http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/09/wikimedia-and-world-university-and.html). Thanks, too, Katherine, for your great Wikimedia movement strategic vision and thinking.

World University and School seeks to be in each of all 7,097 living languages (per Ethnolgue) as wiki schools, (and in 8475 entires in languages per Glottolog) - and a growth story for the Web ... and for "the sum of all knowledge."

Katherine I'm writing to reach out for further support, as I do in keeping in touch with you in occasional emails.

As you may know, WUaS donated itself to Wikidata for co-development in 2015, and as a consequence, WUaS received a new WUaS Miraheze Mediawiki in 2017 - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/ (per Lydia+).

Tim, could you possibly please help manage World University and School from a Mediawiki perspective, with Katherine's support?

As I emailed to you yesterday, Tim:

"Thanks for your email, Tim. Good to hear that it's a pretty ordinary request (it hasn't always felt this way) for MediaWiki tech support. As Wikitech lead/head, you have knowledge and skills that Voidwalker doesn't (https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T2276). Planning for and developing online law schools in all ~200 countries in their official/main languages and eventual medical schools with online teaching hospitals for clinical care too, and in Wikidata as well, will involve a lot of knowledge of Mediawiki / Wikidata/Wikibase. Thanks.

Regards, Scott
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In addition, and what I didn't mention in my email to Katherine and All, WUaS seeks to develop in all 7,097 / 8,475 languages as wiki schools for open teaching and learning - and with regards to Wikipedia's mission of "the sum of all knowledge."

But I wonder how to get the SUBJECT TEMPLATE working in Wikidata / Wikibase - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE. This hasn't happened in a number of years (in our new and old wikis), despite it possibly being a fairly ordinary tech support request, per your observation, Tim.

With Katherine and Lydia's support, could you, Tim, with Voidwalker, and potentially in conversation with Magnus, Markus and Denny re multiple languages in Wikidata please begin to focus the development of the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE - which I think will be possibly an extra-ordinary tech support request. WUaS's pilot languages are Spanish, Chinese and German, and the other CC-4 MIT OCW translated courses' languages - https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/. Wiki World Univ & Sch also seeks to keep planning for developing in Google's TensorFlow in mind, and with you Denny working at Google, - and WUaS will perhaps seek to develop a group out of Google in these regards, having communicated about World University and School also with Jeff Dean). In developing the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE, WUaS also seeks to plan for coding for all 7.5 billion people in the world, as Universitians / learners/teachers and speakers in all 7,097 living languages - and as matriculated students for free CC-4 MIT OCW-centric university degrees in all ~200 countries' official languages.

Katherine, at the 38 minute mark here - https://youtu.be/Gdr2F8aB9y0 - the speaker mentions partnerships with universities. Would this be something to explore further in these regards as well? (World Univ & Sch is beginning the accreditation process with WASC senior).

Thank you, Scott

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Wikimedia 2030


https://youtu.be/Gdr2F8aB9y0


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On 03/05/18 09:12, Scott MacLeod wrote:
Hi Reception, Lydia, Markus & All,

I just updated the WUaS Law School links (below) - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/w/index.php?title=World_University_Law_School&action=submit - in WUaS's new Miraheze Mediawiki, and got this error message: 

Editing World University Law School

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It doesn't look like my edits (below) were saved - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/World_University_Law_School . What please should I do? 

(Attended a fascinating talk today at Stanford Law School on "Privacy Law in Brazil Matters" - https://law.stanford.edu/event/lst-lunch-event/ - with a photo here: 



Still hoping to get the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - interoperable in multiple languages between WUaS Miraheze Mediawiki and Wikidata/Wikibase soon-ish. Thank you.

Best, Scott



Law Schools at World University and School (planned in main languages in them)




On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luca, Katherine and All,

In taking the next steps with adding languages to wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org and a WUaS - worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - ... 

e.g. Luca (earlier): I'm seeking to add this "Extension:CustomSidebar" -   
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CustomSidebar - in order to be able to add a variety of languages to this sidebar (like in Wikipedia - eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheist_Quakers - where there is one other language listed to the left - Espanol), but including the WUaS pilot languages of Chinese Spanish and German (since I know this and want to be able to develop WUaS in 2 languages), as well as Romanian (since you 3 speak Romanian as your first language). This will all inform the SUBJECT TEMPLATE that Void may help develop in Phabricator workflow space - worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - with Wikidata as a backend too (like in the above Wikipedia example, although this Wikipedia example doesn't use a TEMPLATE). ...

I'm hoping people can take on some of the further information technological development of World University and School - on both of its WINGS - in all of Wikipedia's 295 languages and in MIT OCW's 7 languages to begin ... and there are many many steps ahead that all come together in complex ways ... including planning for Wikipedia's 295 languages with a WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE and with Wikidata ... and eventually all 7,099 languages, and newly an Academic Press at WUAS with machine translation, an Academic Bookstore ... and even the blockchain ledger (for health care and much more) / a CryptoCurrency and even a Universal Basic Income for 7.5 billion people ... let alone libraries/museums in all 8,444 entries in languages in Glottolog, and even finding form in a realistic virtual earth (think Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with TIME SLIDER and group build-able like Minecraft) ... 

How might we best communicate please about all of this further? Thank youj.

Best regards, Scott


On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Luca and All, 
Thanks, Luca, so much for your response about the new World University and School Miraheze Mediawiki - wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org - and the "503 Backend fetch failed" issues WUaS has been experiencing with it recently.
And thank you for re-opening "a task for this and [so as to] investigate what can be done to stop this." In doing so, could you (Miraheze Mediawiki with Wikidata as a "backend" - to which WUaS donated itself in Oct 2015) possibly please plan for avoiding such issues, and blockages, in each of all ~206 countries (per a recent Olympics) - and from this WUaS Miraheze Mediawiki wiki page - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States (each of which will become a major CC MIT OCW-centric online university/high school, - so a Harvard/MIT/Stanford/Cambridge of the internet for free online degrees) - and in their official/main languages.
I was glad also to hear in this Wikimedia 2030 panel - https://youtu.be/Gdr2F8aB9y0 from August 2017 (accessible from here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/09/bee-orchid-claire-young-young-scots.html) - (and with you on this panel, Katherine!) the mention of Wikimedia thinking of/planning for developing in 7,000 languages, and also glad to hear Magnus Manske talking of MediaWiki coming together further (https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/09/wikimedia-and-world-university-and.html).
So I wonder, in re-opening this task re preventing such "issues" whether Miraheze Mediawiki could also begin to plan for /anticipate wiki schools in each all 7,099 living languages (and per the recent Wikimania panel when 7k languages were mentioned - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/09/bee-orchid-claire-young-young-scots.html - again with the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, whom I'm including in this email). 

WUaS is hoping to install the Miraheze Mediawiki Languages' Extension soon - and probably after this "issue" is resolved. 

And yes, could WUaS please begin with a monthly backup of our WUaS data?  

Thank you, Luca.

Sincerely,
Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
scottmacleod.com




On Sep 28, 2017 9:42 PM, "Reception123" <utilizator.receptie123@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I apologize that you are experiencing issues. This error usually happens very rarely, and in theory should not be happening. I will re-open a task for this and investigate what can be done to stop this. Please note that this error has nothing to do with your data, and it does not affect it. There should never be an issue, but if you would like a weekly/bi-weekly/monthly backup of your wiki, please let me know and I will set that up for you.



Reception123
MediaWiki System Administrator,
Miraheze

On 28 September 2017 at 21:40, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luca, and All,

I got this error message again just now, which I did before when I emailed you ... so this is a second time, and since it's happening with some frequency now, I'm a bit concerned, since the loss of the WUaS MediaWiki in Jan-Mar 2016 was a bit traumatizing for me ... I regained access to wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org quickly - but also recognize that securing reliability can be an involved process. What should I do about this please? (Wiki access to 295 languages is part of the World University and School plan). Thank you, Scott

503 Backend fetch failed

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Error 503 Backend fetch failed, forwarded for 208.76.29.26, 127.0.0.1 (Varnish XID 4751414) via cp2 at Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:13:08 GMT.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luca / Reception123, and All,

I've only had one "not accessible" error message so far, and it happened today, for https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org and since the last WUaS MediaWiki from Jan-Mar 2016 only lasted for about 2 months, I'm proceeding gradually in these regards. 

I'd like to add some version of all 295 Wikipedia/Wikidata/Wikibase languages next, anticipating potentially coding for both CC-4 MIT OpenCourseWare in its 7 languages, and CC-0 Wikisource, possibly even for a Bookstore / Academic Press with machine translation in all these languages, - so like the partial list of languages on the left here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page - probably. What would I do to add this language extension, please, Luca, particularly for Chinese, Spanish, German, the other CC MIT OCW languages (for for-credit courses) and perhaps the UN languages (including French and Russian), the 4 Swiss languages (including Italian and Romash), Scots' Gaelic, Romanian, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Japanese, Swahili and Zulu, for example? 

I'd also like to begin to plan for a new SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE (and a NATION STATE TEMPLATE as University template, and a LANGUAGES' TEMPLATE for wiki schools, eventually in all 7,099 living languages) - and while there's been some recent discussion on the Wikidata list about templates here - "[wikicite-discuss] Deletion nomination of Template:Cite Q on English Wikipedia" - I wonder how best to proceed in these regards. What would you suggest in this regard, please, Luca, as well? Examples of Templates from early 2016 below, where nothing much has changed in my planning or thinking - except that WUAS still also seeks to build in Wikidata at a very early stage, which WUaS didn't do in early 2016. 

Dario, in responding to your recent Tweet post about Elsevier, here's a recent blog post of mine - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/09/white-bellied-heron-wide-open-field-for.html - about Wikipedia's competitive advantages in these regards, that seem worth planning for.  

Julian, would you be able, with assistance, to begin to build out online CC-0 bookstores / Academic Presses from these emergent technologies potentially - and planning for 295 languages, and eventually an on-the-ground bookstore/academic press near the greatest university in each of all ~200 countries to begin? (Luca is based in Romania too, and speaks Romanian). 

Thank you,
Scott

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luca (Lydia, Denny, Markus, and Dario), 

Thanks so much, Luca, for your many good suggestions!

I'll check out - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CustomSidebar - and many of your other good Miraheze information technologies, and re these previous beginning attempts at "Languages" and "Nation States" at WUaS: 






In a Stanford Law Codex presentation (with Stanford Law Professor Roland Vogl) two weeks ago, I met MIT"s and lawyer Dazza Greenwood, who's leading Blockchain development in Cambridge, MA. 


... planning for Blockchain (and Bitcoin) at this stage has much merit. 

Here's an explanation of Blockchain's potential which I found helpful re health care data: "Why Blockchain is a Game Changer for the Health                                                           Industry" - https://twitter.com/GerdMoeBehrens/status/899024693050695680 (posted here recently - https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch) - and WUaS's "You at WUaS" and Teaching "Hospitals" and "Clinical Research" are planning for all 7 billion+ people on the planet database-wise.

WUaS is also planning an online Academic Press - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/AcademicPress.html - in all 7,099 living languages with robust machine translation (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Academic_Press_at_World_University_and_School) and similarly an online Bookstore, and potentially coding these with CC-0 Wikisource (per Lydia) in Wikipedia's 295 languages. All of this would integrate with Blockchain and Bitcoin in all ~200 countries, and the WUaS law students (and Computer Science Ph.D. students) in all ~200 countries' official languages could help code for this in their countries' legal system. 

Thank you, 

Scott




On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Luca (and Lydia, Denny, Dario and Markus),
Thank you again - and particularly for your helpful and encouraging responses to my questions about the new - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/ - which is coming along nicely. 
Eventually WUaS will seek to have machine translation available on this wiki, especially in that WUaS seeks to create an universal translator in all 7,099 living languages (for text, voice, for an academic press in all languages, potentially integrated with CC-0 Wikisource, and in a realistic virtual earth - and for (Google?) brain research even), but not yet.
Re Languages - which are WUaS's first and foremost area (of about 10 areas) ... worlduniversityandschool.org (each planned, in that language, as a wiki school or a major university i.e. Harvard/MIT/Stanford) - it would be great to be able to just list all 295 languages in Wikipedia in the left column of WUaS's new wiki, and also plan for all 7,099 living languages (in Ethnologue), 8,444 entries in languages                                                           (in Glottolog), the languages of the ISO 639+ and then make it possible for an academic linguistic researcher or a computational linguist, for example, to add other ones they find or invent etc. (... similarly for WUaS Nation States, each to become a major university in their official / main languages).
Would it be possible please to just begin creating "Languages" and ~200 (Olympics?) "Nation States' lists in the left column, soon-ish? ("Nation States" would be in English and their official/main languages again, to start).
In the meantime, I'll explore using the language tag you suggest - "" ... 
Re the Wikidata-Lexeme, which Lydia's team has been developing ...  https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/898936778807291908 ...
http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Main_Page - it looks like this is NOT a WMF project - Warning: this is not a live Wikimedia Foundation project. - so it could potentially become integrated independently of WMF. 

I'll continue with developing some of ... 






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