Sunday, May 6, 2018

Meconopsis: "The Quakers are right. We don’t need God" by Simon Jenkins, in "The Guardian," "[NTF-talk] British Quakers and God: interesting "Guardian" article", VISIT VIRTUALLY Dolobran Meeting House, a secluded Friends (Quaker) Meeting House near Pontrobert, Meifod, Powys, Wales, Nontheist Friends (NtFs) are a bit non-conformist in an historically Quaker way, Here's where World Univ & Sch is ... "Waratah: Developments in "Your new Miraheze wiki: World University and School Wiki" ... with getting our somewhat new wiki "front end" working with Wikidata as a "backend" ... Large Meeting Room in Britain Yearly Meeting (Quaker) … Temple tank in Nagapattinam, India, in Street View-https://tinyurl.com/y8vypmyb, Harbin Hot Springs’ gate-http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg in Street View, Many parallels between soaking in Harbin warm pool & Quaker Meeting re inner releasing action


Simon Jenkins mentions Meifod, Powys in Wales in his article. 

Interesting to read on the "Dolobran Friends Meeting House" web site - http://dolobran.llanhub.uk/ - that

"In the early days of Quakers, when the persecution of non-conformists was terrible, many families in the area left to follow William Penn to Pennsylvania."

Dolobran Meeting House is a secluded Friends (Quaker) Meeting House near Pontrobert, Meifod, Powys. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolobran,_Montgomeryshire)


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dolobran_Quaker_Meeting_House.png


Interesting too to see the Dolobran Friends Meeting House from the air here - https://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/300008649-friends-meeting-house-meifod. And one can just begin to visit it in Google Street View - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Friends+Meeting+House,+Dolobran/@52.7022825,-3.2982538,17z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48655452865a9b79:0x8422a1541629a170!2sFriends+Meeting+House,+Dolobran!8m2!3d52.7022825!4d-3.2982538!3m4!1s0x48655452865a9b79:0x8422a1541629a170!8m2!3d52.7022825!4d-3.2982538 - in two photos, but no virtual "walking" there yet. (By way of comparison, you can Visit the Harbin Hot Springs' Gate here ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg - in Google Street View and "walk" down the road 4 miles to Middletown, California, and amble around the streets there).

Nontheist Friends (NtFs) are a bit non-conformist in this historically Quaker way, I'd say. 

Also interesting anthropologically and with my interest in how "place" informs culture, how the "discourse" (i.e. culture / milieu) about Nontheist Friends in the British Isles seems to have different "contours" than that in the US, and other countries, and in new ways with the internet even (although the activity of this NtF email, a main discourse of NtFs, seems to emerge with the World Wide Web). 

Friendly regards, Scott



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'David Boulton' via Nontheist Friends (Quakers)

1:34 AM (10 hours ago)
to nontheist-frie.
Great piece by Simon Jenkins. It should really spice up the theist/nontheist dialogue!

David B

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FYI, this article appears in today’s print edition of The Guardian (Journal section, page 5).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/04/quakers-dropping-god 

The Quakers are right. We don’t need God
Simon Jenkins

“The Quakers are clearly on to something. At their annual get-together this weekend they are reportedly thinking of dropping God from their “guidance to meetings”. The reason, said one of them, is because the term “makes some Quakers feel uncomfortable”. Atheists, according to a Birmingham University academic, comprise a rising 14% of professed Quakers, while a full 43% felt “unable to profess a belief in God”. They come to meetings for fellowship, rather than for higher guidance…."

NB for non-UK readers, this article refers to British Quakers.

DS


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Hi VJ, 


Here's the Tamil_language wiki subject page at WUaS - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Tamil_language - planned in Tamil, and for online CC-4 MIT OCW-centric university and I.B. high school degrees in Tamil, and in India - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/India - at India World University and School (planned in all its languages).

Have you worked with Wikidata/Wikibase, which is Wikipedia's "back end" structured knowledge database, in its 299 languages, very much, if at all? 

Happy Scottish Country Dancing! 

Namaste, 
Scott


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- Scott MacLeod - Founder & President  

- World University and School

- 415 480 4577

- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 

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Hi, Scott!

Sorry for the tardy reply.   Other stuff came in the way.



Looked up the links below.  Look like rudimentary pages you set up to give an idea of possibilities.  I can’t imagine the amount of work that needs to go in there to make them even minimally useful.



I have not worked with Wikidata or Wikibase.  Dabbled with editing of a few articles sometime, that’s about it.  Seems there’s a whole Wikiuniverse I do not know.



Not clear to me yet whether it will make sense for me to be involved and in what way I can contribute.  Maybe stay in the kicking tire mode till some clarity transpires.



Thanks for trying to introduce me to your work.



Namaste,



   VJ


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Hi VJ, 

Thanks so much for your email. Here's where World Univ & Sch is ...  

Waratah: Developments in "Your new Miraheze wiki: World University and School Wiki"

... with getting our somewhat new wiki "front end" working with Wikidata as a "backend"  ...

As you may read, getting Wikidata in its 299 languages working has been a few years in the making ... as the Wikimedia-universe decision making process unfolds.

World Univ & Sch would like to become one of the largest employers in the world (~2.3 million people?) ... on both of our wings A) https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch?lang=en and B) https://twitter.com/WUaSPress?lang=en - and in each of all ~200 countries and in all 7,097 living languages. 

And Google with Tensor Flow, too, scales ... 

And we'd like to develop in the Google-verse for our Academic Press at WUaS planned with machine translation, and our online/on-the-ground bookstores/robotics' stores in all ~200 countries' official main languages. 

Do you know where this particular Temple tank is in Nagapattinam, by any chance? :)

Temple tank in Nagapattinam, Tamil Nadu, India, in Street View 
@HarbinBook Hot Springs’ gate http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg in Street View 
Curious about the waters in Indian temples culturally. How have people soaked in them over centuries? For ex, in India?


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Large Meeting Room in Britain Yearly Meeting (Quaker)
Temple tank in Nagapattinam, India, Street View 
Harbin Springs’ gate http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg Street View 
Many parallels btwn soaking in Harbin warm pool & Quaker Meeting re inner releasing action


I found these Temples with tanks so far in the Nagapattinam area ... 


As an anthropologist of Harbin Hot Springs with an actual-virtual focus, and re cultural or counter-cultural practices (Harbin), I'm also interested interested in India Temple tanks in these regards. (And I'd like to facilitate developing a realistic virtual Harbin / earth emerging in something Google Street View with time slider / Maps / Earth / Brain and in all of Google's languages - as STEM field site and class rooms ... and for soaking from home even:) 

I love this festival vision - https://tinyurl.com/yc994w2v - in Nagapattinam too :)

Namaste,
Scott




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