Hi Markus, Lydia, Jim and Jim,
I enjoyed this great 60 Minutes' piece on Jimmy Wales & Wikipedia in 288 LANGUAGES -
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikipedia-jimmy-wales-morley-safer-60-minutes/
- and have added it to the WIKI subject page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki -
for open teaching and learning planned for 9000+ languages. It's interesting that there's no mention of Wikipedia explicitly planning for A.I., machine learning, or linked open data.
When I went this morning to the new WUaS in MediaWiki -
http://worlduniversityandschool.org/mediawiki-1.24.1/index.php?title=Main_Page
- I found that it had been hacked yesterday -
http://worlduniversityandschool.org/mediawiki-1.24.1/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history
- and I've now made a basic backup of these new beginnings for WUaS in MediaWiki. I also couldn't revert it to the previous version, because there were too many hacks in between, so I had to copy everything from my last MediaWiki version by hand to then overwrite the hacks. In what ways might it be possible to begin to explore developing this with Wikidata and with planning for Linked Open Data, and thus to prevent future hacks, given that I'm not a Wikidata developer - and around this key WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE?
Markus, Jim, Jim and Lydia, could you please also point WUaS to resources related to semantic wiki, and especially for linked open data, (with a focus security and privacy), particularly around its use
and implementation, etc. as well as to existing best practices or case studies that really explore and lay out possible applications - and interlingually vis-a-vis Wikidata as well. There are some resources
about this on the Artificial Intelligence wiki subject page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence - but nothing very applied yet vis-a-vis Wikidata especially. It would be great too to anticipate an Universal Translator -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - with these resources.
I've taken the liberty of adding the four or you to World University and School's technical committee here -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University_Foundation - and please let me know if you don't want to be mentioned here.
Thank you, and looking forward to further communication about this.
Best,
Scott
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Hi Jason,
For developing Linked Open Data anticipating Artificial Intelligence and WUaS, this Wikidata email thread itself, and Markus Kroetzsch's email here, and his paper references, are one good starting place. Both Markus and Kingsley Idehen's comments, also in this thread, are often very helpful in what they write and in the Wikidata email list.
When I went yesterday and this morning to the new WUaS in MediaWiki - http://
I'm/let's also looking for resources for implementing in SemanticWiki, and in addition to linked open data, (with a focus security and privacy), particularly around its use and implementation, etc. as well as to existing best practices or case studies that really explore and lay out possible applications - and interlingually vis-a-vis Wikidata as well. There are some resources about this on the Artificial Intelligence wiki subject page at WUaS - http://worlduniversity.wikia.
See you this evening, and thanks for your email.
Scott
Hi Jason,
For developing Linked Open Data anticipating Artificial Intelligence and WUaS, this Wikidata email thread itself also is another good starting place. Kingsley Idehen's (https://plus.google.com/u/0/+
Scott
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On 3/30/15 7:01 PM, Vladimir Alexiev wrote:
We as humanity should leverage the strengths of both, to gain maximum benefits.Amen! Anything less is an utter shame.
Kingsley, I am very much heartened by your response because I thought you're a die-hard DBpedia guy;A Little Cooperation Goes a Long Way.Amen, one more time !
and a couple months ago when Markus pointed to the excellent Resumator, you sort of said "but does it LOD".
That's an example of how my comments can be easily misconstrued, due to my DBpedia and LOD proximity :)
All I want is for identifiers to resolve to description documents. Net effect, we have URIs functioning as terms rather than words and/or phrases, expands the power of the Web.
Wikidatians have strength in numbers.
As Multichill (Sum of All Paintings, WikiCulture, WikiLovesMonuments)
is just emailing me "We have bots and we're not afraid to use them.
My bot (BotMultichill) has over 4 million edits"
They're not afraid to screw some modeling up, because they're gonna fix it.
All good.
They talk to each other, all the time, in sophisticated ways.
(Well, not all of them are sophisticated: e.g. I am just learning)
Mediawiki is the most sophisticated consensus-building platform, right?
"A" rather than "The" :)
They're good with practical information architecture (things shold be easy to use and see), without being afraid of breaking some puny rule.
Yes! Not being afraid to break things is crucial. A system of draconian rules is DOA. That said, Linked Open Data isn't draconian, but I do empathize with those who might initially arrive at that conclusion.
They're not afraid to use what used to be a cursed languge (PHP).
Phabricator is a great.... 10 tools in one? I only used it couple days but the UI is excellent.
And they are getting serious about RDF: they're retooling the WDQ backend because that wonderful beast is ever hungry.
(They picked BigData because of free support and strong engagement).
I don't quite clearly see the Complementarity between DBP and WD that you see, but there are options.
And that's the weak point that needs fixing.
Wikidata is about a crowd oriented DataWiki for structured data.
DBpedia is about Wikipedia content rendition in 5-Star Linked Open Data form.
Wikidata enables DBpedia to be better.
DBpedia enables Wikidata to be better, even if DBpedia shortcomings are the initial point of focus.
What I see that there's got to be a joint series of workshops.
Yes, but not just workshops. Principals behind both projects need to talk and get to understand one another, genuinely. As I said, these projects are inherently complimentary+++
Maybe also with the SemanticMediaWiki (or OntoWiki) people, because they have the third perspective.
Both are DataWiki variants. They are complimentary tools that can play a role. Just like related tools that offer read-write capability at Web-scale via the open standards such as LDP, SPARQL Graph Protocol, SPARQL 1.1 Update etc..
Who's for it? I sure would be happy: will cut down on travel :-)
PS: Too bad this thread wont go to wikidata-l because I'm not subscribed there.
It's in the cc. :)
Kingsley
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Hi Jason,
I'm still getting my mind around / learning about Wikidata, but here's a great tour made by Magnus Manske from Sweden and one of the two Wikidatans who won a recent prize on behalf of Wikidata -
How best for WUaS to develop in this/in Wikidata with Linked Open Data and planning for all 9,000 languages, is a question I'm wondering about?
I learned about this new Wikidata tour from the " [Wikidata-l] Weekly Summary #152 " in the main Wikidata-l email list. Are you receiving these also? All three Wikidata, Wikitech and SemanticWiki email lists are accessible here again - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.
Could we possibly please do something this evening to stop the hacks that are occurring to WUaS in MediaWiki ?
Thank you,
Scott
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Not many online accrediting (e.g. on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC) universities or schools, such as World University and School, planned for all 9,000+ languages and 200+ countries, are planning for artificial intelligence or machine learning, and these related blog posts are the beginnings of this.
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