?#Consciousness ? awareness sentience feeling scientifically & w computing: How could #FilmTo3DApps help?
?#Consciousness ? awareness sentience feeling
scientifically & w computing: How could #FilmTo3DApps @ #StreetView w #TimeSlider, cell, molecule 3 levels bring together 1st & 3rd person sing. accts #PhysicalDigital #ActualVirtual 1 #RealisticVirtualEarth -http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2022/03/chuska-mountains.html?
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1510677565119205376?s=20&t=SwS4dOhe7y4xi5k61qs4-A
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Re #consciousness awareness sentience feeling
scientifically & w computing: How could #FilmTo3DApps @ #StreetView w #TimeSlider, cell, molecule 3 levels bring together 1st & 3rd person sing. accts #PhysicalDigital #ActualVirtual 1 #RealisticVirtualEarth -http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2022/03/chuska-mountains.html?
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1510675182293118980?s=20&t=SwS4dOhe7y4xi5k61qs4-A
https://twitter.com/Softjames23/status/1508430301357355022?s=20&t=SwS4dOhe7y4xi5k61qs4-A
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1510678273340051457?s=20&t=S_UIL1eVytPR1PR-dBFLRw
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1510678891249033224?s=20&t=V34E03hBeVZtto7HEOoDtA
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1510679207185027074?s=20&t=Hva7heue7QZtmQfwZCbZ6A
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In the pixels of the above flame of the candle with regards to the physical wick ...
Scott MacLeod <sgkmacleod@worlduniversityandschool.org> |
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Jim,
Some of your previous email leads me to asking, (although it may be implied in my previous email today) if I helped you today with new technology approaches to sentience in AI Bots (albeit in 3800 (with parallel to 2038 when a first mission to Mars and back might blast off) ... and not fully functional today or now ).
More about some of this Regarding how computer scientists and brain scientists and artists too might represent with pixels the distinction between neurons as physical brain meat, and conscious activity in relation to these physical neuronal processes, as they're all videoed at the molecular biology level & cellular for example here- http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2022/04/colored-flame-re-consciousness.html?m=0 ...
Scott MacLeod
(From a 'safe house' north of Berkeley with a 3rd, month long, lease on paper ... and possibly seeking asylum in Europe even or in New England from May 1 2022 ... hoping to hear back from the district 7 California state senator's office regarding this tomorrow morning)
... and see earlier emails from today too here ...
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Jim,
Regarding new approaches to questions of consciousness scientifically, and with computing, further:
How could FilmTo3D Apps at 3 levels (Street View with time slider, cellular and molecular, begin to address questions of consciousness -
(which Jensen Huang's NVIDIA Keynote - "GTC 2022 Keynote with NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang" -
https://youtu.be/39ubNuxnrK8 - touches on, with Light Sheet Microscopy, as well as with a focus on the cellular and molecular in the Omniverse)
- reconciling or, for example, bringing together 1st person and 3rd person (eg scientific) accounts of awareness, sentience, feeling, ... and regarding the Physical and Digital, and Actual-Virtual conversations in a realistic virtual earth too . . . ?
So, in a realistic virtual earth for consciousness - much more than an Omniverse - in what ways could science and philosophy of mind bring together concurrent Film to 3d of the cellular and street view with time slider levels to address questions of awareness, sentience feeling ... in that there's something "it is like to be conscious" ... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness/ (where Chalmers might have become a Prof at NYU to work philosophically with Thomas Nagel, author of "What is it like to be a bat" (1973) an "it's coming" account of consciousness (which philosophers' circle also may be known "the new Mysterians"). An opportunity for #FilmTo3D Apps at many levels, and in a realistic virtual earth for history too incorporating and superceding Omniverse IT and Street View with time slider Maps Earth TensorFlowAI Translate with realistic Avatar Bot Electronic Medical Records IT too.
Thanks again, Scott
Searched on in my blog,
'Light Sheet Microscopy' :
And from a CalTech series of talks, where George Church was a first presenter in the talks I heard:
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Jim Spohrer
8:27 AM (4 hours ago)
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Hi Scott,
I don't know. However, until 2100 it is all science fiction - so check out https://screenrant.com/star-trek-hologram-sentience-awareness-alive-every/
Hope that helps.
In the meantime, I will scan for language translation technologies that can help with educational objects, like books, articles, YouTube videos, etc. - as I think these will be low-hanging fruit for the WUaS vision by 2026-2028 - I hope. No one can predict the future very well. However, that does not stop some of us from trying!
-Jim
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spohrer@gmail.com 408-829-3112
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Jim,
Fascinating envisioning of sentience in the form of drama and science fiction - thanks for sharing. Found re the crux of the consciousness question:
However, the relation of consciousness to brain remained very much a mystery as expressed in T. H. Huxley's famous remark,
How it is that anything so remarkable as a state of consciousness comes about as a result of irritating nervous tissue, is just as unaccountable as the appearance of the Djin, when Aladdin rubbed his lamp (1866).
The early twentieth century saw the eclipse of consciousness from scientific psychology, especially in the United States with the rise of behaviorism (Watson 1924, Skinner 1953...
(Friend George Alexander MD was interested in behaviorism too regarding questions of understanding consciousness ... since there's no ghost in the box or machine, per Gilbert Ryle ... And is this what we have in mind for sentient AI Bots we might create with coding?)
Was amused by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy quote above and the 1866 date of the TH Huxley quote ...
More about mysterianism (which idea philosopher, Colin McGinn, coined, I think, loosely in the same sphere of thinking about consciousness as Chalmers - and since the problem is intractable, and potentially unsolvable, there may never be such AI Bots) ... and since the science may never understand consciousness, this leaves wide open the field of science fiction, as well as Physical-Digital realistic virtual earth for history iterations well beyond the year 3800 (loosely regarding the year 2038 and a possible Mars' voyage with people, and returning) ... (but I also think that this is already begun with Street View with time slider and the Omniverse, ...and Ishiguro's 'Klara and the Sun' Artificial Friends' (AF) Robot book (and am glad he as a person of color even wrote this).
Re
"Mysterianism lite"
Nature Neuroscience
Methinks both languages' brain modeling with information technologies (and thanks for the scouting) in a realistic virtual earth for Brain Science, as well as Film to 3D Apps at 1) Street View with time slider, Maps Earth TensorFlowAI Translate, 2) cell, & 3) molecule, levels
of the ....
"genes or brain areas that are associated with particular behaviors (think of fosB, ‘the gene for maternal behavior’, or the orbitofrontal cortex, ‘the brain's moral compass’)"
"activity in a cortical area called MT"
"brain activity leads to subjective experience"
"why the firing of MT neurons feels like visual motion, why dopamine release in the nucleus accumbens feels pleasurable, or why electrical stimulation of the anterior supplementary motor area feels amusing". ..
may be underway ... And integratable in 1 realistic virtual earth for STEM and with individuals' brains as part of their Avatar Bot Electronic Medical Records.... To inform our own Digital Twins and sentient AI Bots?
Scott MacLeod
(From the un- 'safe house' north of Berkeley and latent networks of the illegal drug and sex industries internationally and its latent networks of violence ... and maybe seeking asylum on the east coast or in Europe even after April 30th ... while waiting to hear back from the district 7 California state senator's office regarding the WUaS Corporation and Work World University and School and potentially with an Academic Medical Center with Warm Water Cure in Canyon 94516 ...)
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"The Mysterious Flame: Conscious Minds in a Material World" (1999)
by Colin McGinn, is a book regarding the new mysterianism (that consciousness may never be solved, and is inherently unsolvable).
It's also a symbol on the cover of this book for consciousness, and regarding the flames below in this 4/3/22 blog post.
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Consciousness is potentially impossible to understand: how can something seemingly immaterial emerge from something material and neural like the 'meat' of the brain?
"A philosophical view known as ‘mysterianism’ holds that even though there is nothing supernatural about how consciousness arises from neural activity, the human brain is simply not equipped to understand it."
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- Scott GK MacLeod
Founder, President, CEO & Professor
World Univ & Sch (WUaS) - PO Box 442, Canyon, CA 94516
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Thanks again, -
4/3/22 blog post on Consciousness (and see too the previous few days -
Chalmers is interesting, and I think a realistic virtual earth for Consciousness and at the pixel level and with Film to 3D Apps will further understanding and knowledge of awareness sentience feeling in remarkable research ways.
Scott
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