Stammtisch an einem Samstag? ~ Sat., September 11, 2021
I was a bit concerned about our conversation today, re your comments toward the close ... and regarding to my WUaS's ongoing call for the abolition of the illegal sex industry, as WUaS seeks to grow wiki schools for speakers of all 7,139 known living languages, in all ~200 countries, and then to create a list, brainstorming-wise of all 7.8 billion people, each a Wikidata Q-item number or Wikidata Pin# in all of Wikipedia's 300 languages. Here are some of what I wrote to WUaS colleagues in these regards -
... "Let's end the creation / generation of victims (just had a slightly unsettling talk with Fritz Lebowsky in Bavaria, whom I met at Stanford, who at the very close seemed to be making a racist allusion about Europeans not liking Africans generating trash in Europe ... to which I responded that, metaphorically, the issue of abolition for me would be how not to create victims (as 'trash') - or trash here possibly (or if Africans signed on entry papers to Europe that they wouldn't generate trash, they could enter a country, or for everyone to be able to visit other countries in virtual reality so extraordinary that it was better than going there in person, learning-wise for whatever reasons they might be traveling) - in the first place).
"And while abolition law enforcement - and IT and new IT law - may be partly an English-language British-American-informed thing as I'm conceiving of this, there are quite different sensibilities, laws, legal histories, histories etc ... etc. in Germany for example ... i am reminded of Fritz's comments that they could refer too to Americans (not Africans) sending or 'exporting' 'broken women' - so American victims of the illegal sex industry, for example, to Europe re his trash comment ... for example ... Tragic ... re industry, and business, for example ... Returning to meditation, ... could the US and WUaS get psychiatrists to the 'breakers' (men?) .. and the offenders, perpetrators, purveyors ... and for the victims ... regarding prevention with abolition law?"
Seeking to generate a flourishing WUaS learning conversation, in all 200 countries' languages - and which addresses questions of abolition of the illegal sex industry - as well as legal protection and help for victims - say 'trash' culturally in a sense via not only psychiatry, but also financially through something like Stanford Mine Pi UBI experiments to end poverty worldwide for all 7.8 billion people ... as potentially the WUaS Corporation could list Stanford Mine Pi on the new Silicon Valley Long-term Stock Exchange. Much of today's conversation was about possibly Stanford Mine Pi and cryptocurrencies - and even how to reward good teachers and teaching ... culturally and IT-wise for example.
As I mentioned, Fritz, I didn't record this Bay Area Stammtisch conversation today but Google Meet could have. Here are the WUaS Minutes from 8/21/21 - https://scott-macleod. blogspot.com/2021/09/umpqua- national-forest-oregon.html - (loosely conducted in the manner of Quakers / Friends, and open) from yesterday for your consideration. And here are the previous month's Minutes - http:// worlduniversityandschool. blogspot.com/2021/07/wuas- minutes-for-71721-for-both- wings-1.html - calling for the abolition of the illegal sex industry (Minute 8) and even for the development of WUaS Psychiatry (Minute 9).
Interesting Bay Area Stammtisch conversation about Chiemsee in Bavaria here from a few weeks ago:
"From ... Bay Area Stammtisch August 21 2021, a conversation with Fritz about Chiemsee in Bavaria, swimming, Harbin Hot Springs, academia and the university, ethno-wiki-virtual-world- graphy, revolutionizing publishing, with text in the sidebar in Google Street View printing to paper, and in #wuASvr - in new virtual reality books, and more -
https://drive.google.com/file/ d/1LVGQfrDRMU_NOIB7- qHuLk4SgFKnQNAc/view - " (https://scott-macleod. blogspot.com/2021/08/guinea- turaco-tauraco-persa-hallo. html)
https://drive.google.com/file/
Sincerely,
Scott
Calling for abolition of sex industry (post abolition of slavery) -
(http://scott-macleod. blogspot.com/2021/06/bald- eagle-abolition-nontheist- quakers.html?m=0) - in 200 countries too ... to protect victims from becoming victims, and for a myriad of other reasons.
UBI label in daily blog -
PPPS
Fritz, and all, is "Future Food" the root of the issue ... ?
Fritz, and all, is "Future Food" the root of the issue ... ?
Harvard MIT Professor of Genetics' George Church and Jane Metcalfe's articles I mentioned
https://neo.life/2021/09/ future-food-needs-some- historical-context/ (check out the cartoon here...)
PPPPS
Re root of the issue questions, here's John Money (Harvard PhD) label ... re potentially online psychiatry too -
PPPPPS
And here's the "Stanford Mine Pi" and Stanford Law CodeX conversation with Syren Johnstone I mentioned -
Acer rubrum: Syren Johnstone, Stanford Law CodeX, 9/1/21 ~ And Stanford Mine Pi cryptocurrency questions
https://scott-macleod.
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Fritz emailed a doozy of a message ... which I makes me quite wary ... and I replied below, and below that are some of my initial concerns about our recent communications (from 9/13/21's WUaS News and Q&A)
Dear Scott,
First things first:
I am always in awe of everyone who is trying to create meaningful positive impact towards a sustainable future for ALL.
At the end of our thought provoking personal conversation I wanted to touch on how best to transform ‘waste management’ into ‘waste avoidance management.’ I did select the topic around littering habits to illustrate some unintended consequences of creating non-bio-degradable plastic products as well as the impact that non-bio-degradable waste has on all of us.
Waste management offers a wide spectrum of solutions. Let’s consider one of the most regulated approaches: Littering fines. European smokers often complain that they get promptly fined in Singapore when carelessly disposing of a cigarette but to the ground. How much do they lack self-awareness about cultural differences leading to differences in habits and solutions? How best could people learn to be much more aware of differences in habits across cultures and appropriately adapt to those habits?
However, much more importantly, all of us shouldn’t be just satisfied with somewhat efficient ‘waste management.’ Instead, shouldn’t we all rather learn much more about ‘waste avoidance management?’
During our conversation I referred to a scenario in Africa created by non-bio-degradable plastics disposed off to the ground and piling up along the roads. So sorry to have triggered a racist allusion about Europeans not liking Africans generating trash in Europe. This allusion falsifies my intent which wasn’t at all about Europeans not liking Africans generating trash in Europe.
Instead, I tried to illustrate that we often miss out in thinking through all the way to a desirable and workable solution. In Africa or India we see the plastic trash out in the open. In Europe we hide the trash in waste storage facilities, including dump sites. Still, most of this plastic will end up contaminating our planet’s oceans. In my view, consumers all over the world are far from ‘generating’ non-bio-degradable plastic trash. Why? The root cause of such plastics disaster is found in the industries producing non-bio-degradable plastics rather carelessly. The underlying business model focuses mostly on profit only — too little on overall impact including all the ‘unintended/ignored’ consequences.
Furthermore, unfortunately, only insufficiently many European entrepreneurs feel ready to elaborate meaningful solutions that eliminate the undesirable root causes.
This leads to my most important question of the day:
How best can we teach people to engage in developing much more desirable bio-degradable products while eliminating the production of non-bio-degradable plastic products?
Putting it all to a still broader perspective, I fully agree with your statement, Scott, that the issue is how best to find out how not to create victims.
Much too often these days, consumers become victims of their own lack of knowledge as well as lack of personal integrity. At the same time, too many law makers seem to still diverge or distract from missing out on creating sufficient skills and competencies in people enabling wholesome and diverse human cultures to meaningfully adapt to any type of change. For example, how can consumers make appropriately responsible decisions on an individual basis if the associated knowledge appears insufficient for making such a decision?
Just saying NO to a proposal is not enough. We also need proactive engagement to create meaningful solutions. Perhaps together we can also bring to life some research projects that focus on how best to generate meaningful proactive engagement, individually as well as collectively — in most simple ways? Open-minded proactive collaboration carried out by groups of people with sufficient skills and competencies could furthermore establish a board of overseers or judges of the modern digital transformation, for example, having specific executive power while overcoming any type of egocentric phenomena.
Again, please stay confident that I am always in awe of everyone who is trying to create meaningful positive impact towards a sustainable future for ALL.
Have a wonderfully thoughtful day.
Warmest regards,
Fritz
PS: Perhaps we can also reflect on the following statements?
There exists one human race only. Everything else is about appropriate inclusion of diversity. ALL lives matter — human life as much as animal life.
Anyway, I very much look forward to exploring the links you provided.
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Sun. 9/12/21
Hi Fritz,
Perhaps in an Actual-Virtual physical-digital single #rRalisticVirtualEarth for everything,(think Google Street View with Time Slider Maps Earth TensorFlow Translate with realistic Avatar bots for even tele-robotic surgery, for ex) you can begin to wiki develop some of your thinking about waste-management, to be implemented in the actual world, - so in a realistic virtual earth?
Abolition of slavery worked and created freedom for millions of people over the past centuries, and I think abolition of the illegal sex industry internationally may follow a similar path regarding laws to start.
Abolition-ally yours,
Scott
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M 9/13/21
Hi World Universitians,
Here's the video recording for today's 9/13/21 WUaS News and Q&A - https://drive.google.com/ file/d/1cQfV0YP_ NsfrAUUvlTu49GAvb_fn51Nf/view .
Fritz, I'm concerned about what I heard you expressing in the Bay Area Stammtisch on Saturday (which WUaS didn't record), and in your email too following this, - see: https://scott-macleod. blogspot.com/2021/09/ galapagos-tortoise-abolition- of-illegal.html ...
And, Fritz and All, here again are the 7/17/21 Minutes for World Univ & Sch ... and see Minutes 8 and 9 especially in regard to calling for an abolition of the illegal sex industry, and the development of WUaS Psychiatry (in all 200 countries' main languages +) in particular - and also regarding, brainstorming-wise, planning to code for all 7.8 billion people on the planet - as wiki teachers and learners for people-to-people free universal education - in all ~200 countries to distribute a single cryptocurrency such as Stanford Mine Pi via UBI experiments to end poverty -
http:// worlduniversityandschool. blogspot.com/2021/07/wuas- minutes-for-71721-for-both- wings-1.html .
Am not clear why you brought up the 'African's trash in Europe' example re Germans, and am not clear either about why you shared a long letter about 'waste management' following this (and re abolition questions esp.). Neither the WUaS Corporation, nor World Univ & Sch has expressed any interest in waste management whatsoever, and while I found one course at MIT OCW on Waste - https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/ edgerton-center/ec-716-d-lab- waste-fall-2015/ - and more on nuclear waste, there aren't any wiki subjects at WUaS yet with this focus, and this 'waste management' isn't a main focus in seeking to develop a realistic virtual earth for STEM for example. Please read some past Minutes (and blog entries) to see where WUaS is coming from (Quaker / Friendly-wise) and where WUaS seeks to head.
Am not clear why you brought up the 'African's trash in Europe' example re Germans, and am not clear either about why you shared a long letter about 'waste management' following this (and re abolition questions esp.). Neither the WUaS Corporation, nor World Univ & Sch has expressed any interest in waste management whatsoever, and while I found one course at MIT OCW on Waste - https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/
Again, WUaS is calling again for abolition (following the abolition of slavery) among all 7.8 billion people, brainstorming-wise, to prevent the creation of victims, and crime, in many senses, and as WUaS's IT platforms grow - with machine learning and AI, for example ... and for these other 4-5 growing number of reasons in this Season's Greetings' email from New Year's Eve on December 31, 2019 - - https://scott-macleod. blogspot.com/2019/12/wild- pomegranate-burchellia- bubalina.html
Abolitionist greetings,
Scott
Abolitionist greetings,
Scott
WUaS Minutes from 8/21/21 (both wings) on Friday - with 2 big news' items at top -
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galápagos_tortoise
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chelonoidis_nigra
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